Big Box Gyms Are Lying to You — Here's WHY!

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Yes, so yeah, just tell him, like, since he j just came, just uh about that apparatus you've created.

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Oh.

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I mean, I so there what I was telling these guys before is that this has I have a full utility patent on this battle bar.

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There's a couple of them that literally in the process right now that I don't want to go too crazy into detail.

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Yeah, you know, because it's still there's still some propriety stuff.

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Yeah.

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But you know, uh it just that when it comes to so I had already spent years designing training techniques, I just couldn't settle for the norm.

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And I knew it was gonna be that way.

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I mean, my degrees in sports medicine, yeah, you know, started going.

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That's what I was gonna ask you.

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Like, how'd how'd you get into all I started going the traditional route?

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Yeah, and I was an artist before that.

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I mean, I was always creativity, was my monster.

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What kind of art?

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Everything.

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Everything.

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I mean, from drawing, I had clothing businesses in high school.

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Uh I used to tear people's clothes and bleach them and paint.

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Like what would you like the most out of like you know what?

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What people ask that now, even with the metal fabrication.

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Yeah, anything I get to get to go off and create.

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Okay.

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Like I can't help it.

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It's just that's how I got into all the trades.

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That's why I was saying, you know, once I learned that final trade of metal fabrication, yeah, it was on.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I was I was designing a new training mechanism almost monthly.

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How do you learn metal fabrication?

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You just do it.

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Okay.

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No, I had a I so I had a bike builder, I had a custom chopper built by amazing guy, Mark Dunn, amazing bike builder.

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And I thought he was gonna give me all these amazing lessons and you know, welding, and okay.

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Went and picked up a used welder.

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Yeah, went there, he said, here's the voltage, here's wire speed, heat, go fuck with it.

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Go learn it.

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He and bend it.

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Go, go learn it.

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Yeah, and that's what I did.

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You have to learn metallurgy, you have to, you know, MIG welding is not that difficult, but you do.

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You have to learn different metals, you have to learn the machine, you have to, but it's the other parts of fabrication that are are difficult.

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Kids come out of welding school, they learn how to, well, oh, I'm a master welder.

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I don't give a shit.

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Yeah, it's learning how to use all these other tools, learning how metal forming metal, learning how to correct mistakes, and you're constantly running into issues.

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I mean, it's dangerous shit too.

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But it's all the other things that you need to learn.

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I mean, here, machining, bending the tubes, you know, just there's a there's a lot more.

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Even in like plastic surgery, like it kind of, you know, like yeah, in training, you could learn how to do the surgery.

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Like for me, I had my resident clinic, so I had more long-term follow-up.

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But when you when you only like, you know, you see the patient for the surgery or a month out, if they have issues or their scars don't heal appropriately, and what to do afterwards, like you're kind of lost, you know, it's until you explain it.

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It's the same as business.

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Yeah, yeah.

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The nice part in our business though is if you mess up, you you kind of hurt yourself.

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If we mess up, we hurt somebody else.

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But correct me if I'm wrong.

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You go through med school, yeah, residency, you do all this.

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That's great.

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You come out a rock star, yeah.

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Somebody takes sure you go into your own business.

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It's not until you get those experiences, yeah, and learning by mistake, and all those experiences that make you really, really good.

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You have to deal with those.

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Yeah, you know, before that, you're just okay, I have an education.

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Yeah, it's not until you learn how to circumvent all those issues that you really become a really good surgeon.

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Definitely, especially with like dealing with complications, difficult patients, like the that's that's the toughest things.

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Like, that's when you like lose sleep, you're like, uh is she gonna be happy, whatever.

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Like the night after a anything, it like even like shaping, like shaping a breast or shaping a nose, you're like, you know, on table it looks great, but you like you gotta kind of you're like you remove pieces of the breast to make it look good, and you don't realize why.

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And then you see other people's their the breasts are boxy, it but because they're I can't if I was look at a breast, yeah.

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That looks good.

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There's a round yeah, there's a reason you gotta cut out certain portions of it, or there's reasons you make certain cuts, or uh you know, you you draw it out beforehand and plan it, and like because in six months or nine months, you see the final shape.

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If you don't have that long-term follow-up, you're like, all right, I I make these cuts because the rest of the people draw it.

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But then once you're in it, you see why you make those different cuts.

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And you fine-tune it.

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Yeah, like but just to give you guys props, I I have a lot of clients, colleagues, friends that I've trained over the years, a lot of surgeons and doctors.

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Yeah, and I learned because I almost went to med school, or I thought if I was gonna continue in the conventional sports medicine, I wanted to go into orthopedic surgery.

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Yeah, then I found out that plastic surgeons and orthopedics are the rock stars of med school.

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Yeah, and I was like, not me.

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Yeah, I'm like, no, I'm done with school.

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Yeah, seven years of school, yeah, and then like no, because I started going the unconventional route.

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I went, I got into martial arts very early into college.

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Yeah.

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And thought what year was that, if you don't mind me asking?

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A long time ago.

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Uh 90 mid-90s.

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Well, I graduated undergrad 95.

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Okay, 95, 96.

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We're not that far off, but yeah, you know, very early on started intensive in martial arts and started fighting and teaching training and and teaching.

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And I was like, okay, I still very much like the the the education of sports medicine.

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Yeah, I want to learn as much as I can about the human body, yeah.

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Right, and that's the foundation that I would never ever ever take back.

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Yeah.

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But getting into the other areas of human performance, like various martial arts, and is what changed me.

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And I even What was your first martial art?

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First martial art was a very traditional style of kung fu.

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Okay.

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And now with MMA, back in the early days of MMA, before it was even MMA, it was like that's why I was asking, because like when we were in college, that's when like MMA was like starting up, like Ken Shamrock.

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I knew before it even got big that it was gonna be the biggest sport ever.

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Yeah.

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Because I I would go to people and say, Oh, yeah, you know, I fought fought a full contact style of Kung Fu, and they would kind of smirk, right?

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Guys that were an MMA.

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I'm like, I wouldn't give up that experience for anything.

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Yeah, what is MMA?

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MMA is a mix of martial arts, yeah.

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So, you know, the dudes that just like to get in the cage and just brawl, and you know, but the ones that really study the arts and understand that this is a process of deduction.

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Yeah, you you study as much as you can and you toss out the stuff that doesn't work.

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Yeah, right.

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You can't just be a slave to one teacher or one process.

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And that's where I think my mindset, all of this has kind of progressed.

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I've always been that way.

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I knew what was not efficacious early on in the con in that first art I studied.

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Yeah, I liked a lot, but to learn movement and then and learn how to be fluid and a lot of the things that I learned in that art, I wouldn't give up for anything.

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Yeah, we've wrestled with wrestling, yeah.

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So I know you guys wrestled.

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Nobody ever would have considered that a martial art 25 years ago.

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It's very much a martial art, and very much an effective one.

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Yeah, you get into grass.

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The discipline, and then I actually like at the beginning, he would sign me up at bars for the whole bar fighting because MMA was coming about this isn't brought up.

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And I was like, and like you know, with the wrestling background, these guys thought they could brawl, and like you don't get in a cage with throwing punches off your back.

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Hey, I mean, my roommate in college could have wrestled Ohio State, yeah, yeah, but he wanted to play lacrosse.

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He's still in the hall of fame, like number two face-off guy in over 30 years, 25 years, 20, 20 years.

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It's approaching that.

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Yeah, but 10 years ago, it's just a monster, yeah.

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But he he loved lacrosse, yeah.

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And I learned early on, and it's one thing, I mean, all of my buddies in high school, you know, we were state champs for a couple years, they were all wrestlers.

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Yeah.

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I what it just wasn't me back then.

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Yeah, I didn't find that intensity till after, but I wish if there was one thing I wish I could go back, it would be the foundation of wrestling.

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And it's not just the wrestling, it's what it does for you, your mentality with training and the intensity.

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The vision quests, the vision quests we always talk about.

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It's seriously those vision.

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Like, even though I like wrestled in college, too, like division three, nothing big.

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Like I always wish I'd tried a little harder, gave it a little more effort.

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Like, because once it's gone, it's gone, you know.

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Um getting back to like what you're saying, like mix mixing things together.

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Um, because like if you really focus on kung fu, even wrestling, if you really focus on wrestling, being the best wrestler, there there's a ceiling.

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But like when you start mixing in different genres together, whether it's wrestling or art, like whether you go from painting, sculpting, incorporating things you learn from different aspects, then you can find like new avenues of growth rather than like having a bar, like having a setting where like you can't go beyond, but when you start mixing things together, then you can go past what that like that previous high point could have been.

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And here's the you know, I would always tell guys I would train, and I could pick him out.

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I could say, okay, this guy is not cerebral enough, yeah, no, no offense, not intelligent enough, amazing physical gifts, yeah.

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But that's it, you're gonna have a ceiling.

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Yeah, and and the only the dichotomy there is, I wholeheartedly agree with you, to be able to do and and experience, but you have to study.

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Yeah, yeah, you have got to utilize the process of elimination, you have got to study.

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Yeah, you can't just go, I'm gonna study all this stuff part-time, yeah, and then not throw out the stuff because you your your mind will be a clusterfuck.

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Yeah, so that'll be you won't be able to use any of it.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So it's study and practice, same thing with medicine.

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Study and practice.

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You have to be able to throw out what doesn't work, or you need to be training 12 hours a day.

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Yeah, because we both know we both know shitty doctors who scored the highest on the every test they were given, like top percentile, but they just like they can't apply it or can't talk to people.

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So, like in practice, it doesn't mean anything that you scored 99th percentile on some tests.

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No, you might have gone to Harvard because of it, but doesn't mean you're a good surgeon.

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So I mean it doesn't I went to Harvard, it can transfer, yeah, but it doesn't necessarily transfer.

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Yeah, you know, it it's yeah.

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It's a separate like part of the brain that's activated.

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So so the the reason, I mean, fast forward, yeah.

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Now it's diving into designing the the atmosphere and the the mechanisms we use.

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I also don't use a lot of conventional terminology, that's how fed up I am with the industry.

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Yeah, I don't like the word fitness.

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I prefer to talk in Latin terms is how we were talking that's pushing it for med school, but I don't like the word fitness.

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Yeah, I I can't stand if somebody calls me a personal trainer.

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Yeah, just the the connotation of it.

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And the reason I needed to continue to push the envelope further and further and make every day about evolution, yeah, is because I got so fed up with it.

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Just an example, you take a big box gym, remain nameless, and I have a very good friend.

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I have some guys that I trained for a while back in the day, and you know, MMA and then and then strength and conditioning.

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They didn't they were kind of lost, didn't really know what they wanted to do.

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I'm like, I think I want to become a trainer.

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And I roll my eyes, I'm like, look, do it, follow it.

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You don't have to get a college degree, but go take some college-level courses.

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Yeah, don't just go do this fast food bullshit.

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Yeah, sure enough, go study for a week, get a certification and a weekend.

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Fast forward one year, the same individual becomes the top trainer at said box gym with no real education, yeah, it's because he sold a lot.

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Yeah, he had a lot of clients.

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Yeah.

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But there's just there's a lot of idiocracy there.

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It's not right.

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And I sports massage therapy.

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You know, I've had people they come out and they have no business practicing on people.

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It's it's across the board.

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Yeah.

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And it's it's bad.

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And and I I think Arizona is worse than a lot of like I did CrossFit in New York and I did CrossFit here.

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I thought like the trainers in New York would take you through warm-ups, make sure you had good form, watch everything.

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Over here, it was just like go, go, go.

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And like, you know, I'm in mid-30s, I'm going against college kids, and I've always lifted heavy and being like super competitive.

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I'm not gonna slow down.

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No, right.

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Although slow down for a few weeks, then like I'm going hardcore and trying to, you know, I think I'm gonna be in the CrossFit Olympics or something.

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And you know, that's the way you just injure yourself.

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Yeah, and like the coaches don't slow you down, where in New York they would slow you down, you know, and they have you do the things right.

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Over here, it was just like do more, do more, you know, and even if it wasn't right.

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The conundrum with CrossFit, you just say the word and you're gonna have 50 to 60, maybe 70% of the people roll their eyes because it became big.

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Anytime something becomes big, people want to bash it.

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Yeah.

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The amazing thing with CrossFit, they took all that bullshit machines where you sit on, sit, go from machine to machine and do one isolated muscle group, yeah, like posers.

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We can get into that.

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But they took all that away.

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Everything is a compound movement.

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Yeah, you're standing, you're moving your body.

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Now, so I think it's amazing.

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Yeah, the flip side is what you're just talking about.

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They pumped out so many training facilities.

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Yeah, I bet if you went to 20 different facilities, I'd say you'd probably be about 50-50.

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Okay, this individual really, really knows how to train people.

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Yeah, he knows how to take someone from every demographic and work with them.

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Yeah, you have to have that ability.

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Yeah, if you don't, people are gonna get hurt.

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Yeah, you can't force the other is lack of evolution.

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Yeah.

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In order for this to continue as a form of training for normal people and not just be, I always said I think CrossFit is gonna continue to be big in the competition atmosphere, yeah, but it'll start to slip a little bit just in the general training for general people, general plants.

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Because you need to be able to evolve.

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It already has, right?

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Well, everything cannot be your base power lifts.

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Yeah, I'm not doing locking arms out overhead anymore.

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I've already had four shoulder surgeries, six dislocations.

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I already have a full replacement, yeah, and we'll have one on this one.

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Yeah, I could do it, but it's not worth it.

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Yeah, I'll design other things that are just as good.

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Yeah, you have to evolve the platform as well.

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Yeah, but overall, I I think it's amazing.

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Yeah, yeah, I got tendonitis like all my fingers and wrists, and I you just gotta be careful because if you're not doing it right, you're putting so much straight on your uh even if you're doing it right, even if you're doing it.

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Even if you're doing it right, your platform needs to evolve a little bit.

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Not everyone I'm trying to be nice because my wife is a physical therapist and she's just like like looking at these exercises, like, what the hell is this?

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Well, of course.

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And then, like what you're saying about personal trainers, like you just watch people be like, they're getting paid to like teach this guy to like hurt himself by like a 60-year-old guy, 70-year-old guy.

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You're like, Why, why is he trying to do a fucking pull-up?

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Why does he have 120 pounds on that lat and coming down a third of the way and then what's that?

00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:44.960
No, you should have 200.

00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:51.360
No, I I I it it's it's I've made a study of it, and I didn't enter a corporate gym for over 25 years.

00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:54.879
Yeah, the last time I was in one, they practically kicked me out.

00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:56.960
Yeah, because they thought I was trying to train people.

00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:00.080
No, these people are approaching me because they see me doing crazy shit.

00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:04.480
Yeah, and I don't like the bullshit equipment they have in there, so I'm using them different.

00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:12.720
Yeah, I'd be on a chest press machine and I'm propping my foot up against it and using it like a jungle gym and doing rows and rearranging shit, yeah.

00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:14.240
And they got pissed.

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Yeah.

00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:17.440
Like, no, you're not supposed to use like that, and you're not supposed to be training.

00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:18.880
I'm not training people, yeah.

00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:20.240
They were just curious.

00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:24.960
I raised curiosity in them because their trainers are such bullshit.

00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:25.200
Yeah.

00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:32.880
I mean, no offense, but you know, the the problem is there's a lot of misleading.

00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:36.960
There's a lot of that's why they're their retention rate on their personal trainers.

00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:38.640
That's why they want them to sell so much.

00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:42.799
But that's why they you get text messages and calls like, oh, you have this free training.

00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:43.920
I'm like, I don't want to.

00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:47.839
And they don't make it easy to like be able to just cancel out either.

00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:50.480
You get billed like four months in addition to game.

00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:53.440
So this is one thing we one don't want people to show up.

00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:57.680
Yeah, this is one thing we ask all our guests, how much can you bench press?

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I'm kidding, we don't.

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But if you want to answer, please go ahead.

00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:06.640
No, so my answer is just he was comments about it.

00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:13.759
My answer to that is that question he was actually answering it before.

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Been asked so been asked that question for 25 years.

00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:18.480
Oh, that's good.

00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:21.440
And just very straight up, right?

00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:23.039
When somebody asks that, I'm like, I don't.

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Yeah.

00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:24.960
They're like, What do you what do you mean?

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You have to know how much you bench.

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And I'm like, no, yeah, traditional barbell bench press, yeah, is as far as I'm concerned, no problem.

00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:40.000
You do your compound lifts, do your base lifts, cool.

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But my job is to find ways to develop that push strength and power standing and without your back supported, and in in real life, like what you're gonna need when you're opposing force with another human being, or what you're gonna need in real life.

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Functional.

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Okay.

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But everybody wants to spend time laying on a bench.

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Yeah, it's a fucking ego fest.

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That's all it is.

00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:06.319
It's the same with don't even start mentioning a bicep curl.

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Yeah.

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Like I would that's what I was going to do.

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Don't even start mentioning that.

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You guys later, you guys will laugh.

00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:12.799
Yeah.

00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:14.160
You go go ahead.

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If you're scrolling social media, you go down a rabbit hole, and you start coming across some training videos of like, you know, either a fitness influer influencer or whatever, and if the first thing you see is somebody sitting there doing a bicep exercise, yeah, turn it off.

00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:30.799
Yeah, it's total bullshit.

00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:31.279
Yeah.

00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:32.559
What do you need?

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Like I always tell people, if your life depended on you're hanging on the side of a cliff, you think those biceps are gonna help you?

00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:42.240
No, you need grip strength and forearm strength and back.

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Biceps and accessory mover.

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You don't need that shit.

00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:53.440
Yeah, but all this, you know, the posers, the bodybuilders that train to pose, not posers being fake.

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Their whole training platform is to pose.

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Nobody thinks about this.

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These guys are going doing all this shit.

00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:08.079
Yeah, they're comp their their competition is to stand on stage and pose.

00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:08.960
Yeah, yeah.

00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:13.119
That is what blew up everybody wanting to get bigger biceps and bigger arms.

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Somebody tells me they're doing arm day, yeah, and I'm like, arm day?

00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:18.960
Yeah.

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Like, how many exercises is that?

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Arm day.

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Yeah.

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Anytime I uh, you know, like I stopped after like, you know, with with CrossFit, I kind of I threw that out probably around eight years ago.

00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:40.079
Um and with that, like never benched like on an actual bench.

00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:47.279
And people keep on asking me, like, when I gain some size, like how much I'm like, I I don't like right now, I just use resistance bands.

00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:51.200
I don't even know what I'm going, I'm going a little hard on it.

00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:53.599
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with bench.

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No, I this is the problem with the industry.

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Yeah, oh yeah, the problem with the industry is the overgeneralization of everything.

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You really sound like a doctor in the in the medical industry.

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The fact is, the the the problem is that should not be a question that people see that you're fit and they approach you and ask.

00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:14.960
Yeah, it's that's just dumb down everything.

00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.000
Yeah, it's that's the problem with the whole industry right there.

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It's a perfect example.

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And the problem is everybody gets so brain screwed at what they're watching and the shock and awe.

00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:34.559
And it's like, guys, if you really, really want to be functional, like really functional in real life on any occasion of anything that gets thrown your way, yeah, you need to evolve.

00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:38.480
Uh honestly, like what you said, like I no lie.

00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:52.160
Uh my wife asked me like years ago, because she just nitpicks like that's why when we first met and started going working out together, I was just like, Oh my god, this is what it's like going with a physical therapist to the cheese at every angle.

00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:55.200
Yeah, she's like, Oh, you're gonna you're gonna hurt your knee.

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Oh, you might not feel it today, but 12 years down the line, and I I would just like Get irritated and gradually like fix my form and like listen to her.

00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:07.839
But she was like, What what are your goals?

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And like when I aged, I it's like coming back to like what you said.

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I was like, honestly, if something heavy falls on me, I want to be able to push it off, or if I fall off a cliff, I can climb back up.

00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:28.400
I was like, I just want to know that I'm capable of doing that stuff in case of emergency reasons.

00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:30.960
I understand where she's coming from.

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And I I can I can tell that's gotta be hard.

00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:34.319
Yeah.

00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:35.839
Training with her.

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That was my foundation.

00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:42.640
But that was care and prevention of athletic injuries and learning what you know, care of the body.

00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:49.599
But take that foundation, understand, but you gotta push that envelope a little bit.

00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:54.480
It's like I understand that squatting below 90 degrees, she'd probably be like, nope, no good.

00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:56.559
She's actually okay with that.

00:22:56.799 --> 00:22:58.319
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta do it.

00:22:58.640 --> 00:22:59.039
Yeah, the right.

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Right.

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So you do have to push the envelope a little bit.

00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:03.200
Now I push it a little too far.

00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:06.000
I'm 10 surgeries in and you know, counting.

00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:16.880
Yeah, but you you can't help other people, you can't evolve and you can't continue to change things unless you have a good foundation like your wife does.

00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:18.319
You have to understand the body.

00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:24.240
Yeah, and that's why I tell people everybody needs to do their own self-study.

00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:27.839
Like you gotta start learning about your own body, or you're fucked.

00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:30.880
Yeah, you're always gonna be a slave to what other people are telling you.

00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:32.480
And you can't like overdo it.

00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:36.880
Like the whole thing, like, oh, don't squat beyond 90 degrees.

00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:38.160
Like, she's okay with that.

00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:43.920
She's like, but don't do it while you're compensating by pushing your knees over your toes.

00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:46.559
Like, that's gonna put extra strain on all your joints.

00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:49.920
Yeah, there's you know, just little, little, little things, yeah.

00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:55.119
And also, like, don't like don't go put on more weight on the bar.

00:23:55.359 --> 00:24:04.960
Like, make sure you have the right form for the appropriate exercise rather than like putting more weight on and doing something completely wrong or completely off.

00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:11.039
So, so our friend, he's an anesthesiologist and he talks about exercises for explosiveness.

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And I'm like, I'm like, dude, we're like mid-40s.

00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:15.359
I'm like, Do you need to be explosive?

00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:16.640
I'm like, what do you what do you use?

00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:17.759
You never know when you gotta report.

00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:29.039
He does do jujitsu, so I like that's the only thing I could think of where you might need some explosiveness or do an exercise or it's gonna injure you or something.

00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:33.279
So I have a uh well, soon I'll be rolling them out.

00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:39.680
It's called Squally Sense on human performance or fit fuckness fitness.

00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:41.680
Uh so fuckness fitness?

00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:44.480
No, we have to know, or else we're not gonna know what to find.

00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:48.319
Not a lot of people are used to using the term human performance or used to hearing the word fitness.

00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:52.559
Yeah, but I want people to understand a little better.

00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:56.880
Like you get all these questions, yeah, and there's some these battles.

00:24:57.039 --> 00:24:58.319
What's the best for this?

00:24:58.480 --> 00:24:59.519
What's the best for this?

00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:01.039
And they want to compare.

00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:02.400
Oh, what's the best for this?

00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:04.000
Yeah, there's no such thing.

00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:10.960
You have to be diverse, yeah, you have to incorporate as much as you can efficiently, right?

00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:14.799
And but that's once again, that's very tough.

00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:21.599
Yeah, and there are a lot of trainers or coaches, whatever, that just don't study enough.

00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:27.200
They just don't, in order to broaden and to be more comprehensive and to incorporate everything.

00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:32.640
So I used to training, I'm like, look, these people have this many hours a day that they're gonna train.

00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:42.640
Yeah, and if you think training three hours three or four hours a day is gonna do shit, yeah, when you accumulate all the hours in a week, oh, I'm working with a trainer three to four days a week.

00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:43.839
Why did you have to add that?

00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:45.039
Do you think that's magic?

00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:47.119
Yeah, like it's probably worse.

00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:47.759
Oh, yeah.

00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:50.720
So I have something called trainer versus training partner.

00:25:50.960 --> 00:26:00.160
If you're working with a trainer for a month and they haven't taught and they're not teaching you something new and they're not shocking you mentally and physically after a month, go get a training partner.

00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:01.680
You guys could do better on your own.

00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:03.279
Pay each other, you break even.

00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:06.880
Yeah, or pick up pickleball, you'll have the same benefit.

00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:18.000
Yeah, I like pickleball when you have like they've got this pickleball where about halfway through the game, unknown, they have three or four guys come running out and they try to attack you.

00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:22.160
Yeah, you're not allowed to use your racket, but you have to keep playing while they're trying to attack you.

00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:23.200
That's nice.

00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:24.160
I thought you were gonna say that.

00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:29.039
I thought you were gonna say the pickleball paddle is worth is 30 pounds.

00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:31.440
Well, we did that, we did that with ping pong.

00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:32.799
We were like tackling each other.

00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:34.480
It's it's it's that is true.

00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:35.200
I forgot about that.

00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:36.720
Yeah, you have to evolve.

00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:37.119
Yeah.

00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:39.920
Now I took it over, I I went overboard.

00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:43.119
So I know I kept track for a decade.

00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:50.559
So training almost 360 days a year for 10 years, that's 300, 3,600.

00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:53.359
What were the five days you took off?

00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:54.799
Uh circumstance.

00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:56.240
Normally I wouldn't take any off.

00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:57.279
Training others.

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So I would I'm I'm accessible when I was training full time.

00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:02.559
I'm so a leap year is a light year for you.

00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.720
There was a day or two here and there, and that was other people's fault, not mine.

00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:13.920
But 3,600 days that these individuals did not come in and see something new.

00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:14.480
Okay.

00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.039
Something completely new they'd never seen before.

00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:20.400
Technique, something they that's what's keep keeps the excitement.

00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:22.160
That's what was good about CrossFit.

00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.720
So it's this mentally and physically, right?

00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:27.680
Mentally, physically, coordination, proprioception.

00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:29.920
People need all of it shocked.

00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:30.319
Yeah.

00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:30.799
Okay.

00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:39.279
You can sit there and stare over at somebody and yell at them, kick their face in the dirt, and just run them in circles and do push-ups.

00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:43.279
Yeah, they're gonna tune out after their body's gonna tune out after a week.

00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:43.680
Yeah.

00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:47.519
Now I took it overboard because that was my platform.

00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:51.519
My job was to create new things every day.

00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:56.880
Most proponents would be like, no, that's you need to like do you can't change things up.

00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:57.759
I don't care.

00:27:57.920 --> 00:27:59.279
That's not that wasn't my purpose.

00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.039
My purpose is to continue.

00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:10.960
Now, these people can go off into the world, which I kind of slowed up on it, and they did, and they could train in the corner over there with a chair and a string better than most trainers.

00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:12.960
Yeah, like they they what do you do?

00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:15.599
You tie the chair on the string and swing it around your head.

00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:16.240
I'm kidding.

00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:20.000
Well, it depends on what kind of string, but you know, little dance.

00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:27.759
I mean, it it's but the the the creativity and the ability to make something out of nothing.

00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:28.319
Yeah, yeah.

00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:32.640
They don't need, oh man, this machine I like, it's not I don't it's busy, it's not there.

00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:33.599
They don't need that shit.

00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:37.759
Yeah, and they go into places and trainers are watching them, they're like, What who is this dude?

00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:38.559
What are they doing?

00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:46.720
They come back a week later and they're like mocking what they were doing, and so that is everybody needs engineers.

00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:47.200
Yeah, yeah.

00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.039
We got engineers in every field.

00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.759
Yeah, we don't have enough engineers in this industry, yeah.

00:28:51.839 --> 00:29:02.079
And everybody we have a lot of engineers designing this crazy ass bullshit equipment that does one thing that's a mockery of other equipment, yeah, but we don't have enough people that are continuing every day.

00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:05.119
And I'm not saying you have to toss out all the conventional stuff, yeah.

00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.480
I'm just saying that we need people, there's plenty of people teaching that.

00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:10.960
Yeah, we don't need more people teaching that.

00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:19.119
Yeah, we need more people that are continuing to shock people mentally and physically, and that's that's what I want to do.

00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:20.079
Otherwise, I don't want to do it.

00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:27.039
Sounds like like our approach for not to just keep bringing up plastic surgery, but it's what we do every day.

00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:54.319
And there's certain surgeons that apply the same thing to everybody, and you know, it's not gonna work for everybody, and it's not gonna look good on everybody, so everybody's unique, whether it's um what they're capable of doing, what your starting point is, what their goals are, what their home life is like, and being like, okay, give me these parameters and we'll see if we can match expectations.

00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:58.640
That is what will set you apart from others.

00:29:58.880 --> 00:29:59.279
Yeah.

00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.319
Not not to be cocky or it's not ego.

00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.039
That will that's what will set you apart from others.

00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:08.640
So um, where do you train out of?

00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:10.079
Do you have your own gym?

00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:13.599
I've I've had my own gym for ever 30 years.

00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:14.240
Where is it?

00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:16.079
So first one Where now?

00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:20.640
Uh now is down where my where my metal fabrication shop is.

00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:22.880
So I have, and I actually live there.

00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:23.440
Okay.

00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:25.759
So I I work, eat, and sleep in the same place.

00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:28.799
And I've fabrication shop, home until I'm done.

00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:30.319
Yeah, I don't I don't leave.

00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:37.039
And that started because I was creating, training, building these things 20 plus hours a day.

00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:37.279
Yeah.

00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.839
Short sold house way up north back when everything crashed, and I'm like, why should I leave?

00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:44.000
I'm I'm working 20 hours a day.

00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:45.359
Which part of town is that?

00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:47.920
Uh it's down just, I mean, it might as well be Tempe.

00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:50.799
It's some I mean I could spit to Diablo Stadium.

00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:52.559
So it's kind of South Phoenix.

00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:53.119
Okay.

00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.319
But I've I've always had a gym of some sort.

00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.160
First one everybody called uh the shop.

00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:00.480
Okay.

00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:02.000
Squally's House of Pain.

00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:02.400
Yeah.

00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:13.440
And I had to get out of there because it was at a house, and the garage door would open and people would be running around that's bleeding, running around the side of the yard puking and and yelling, and you know, so I was teaching MMA.

00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:22.000
When I before I sold the house, there was a wall of mirrors and there was a hole in the wall, and you could still see the bloodstain around the but I was I was killing it.

00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:24.000
I'm like, okay, liability, I gotta get out of here.

00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:27.039
Then I moved down to Indian School in 32nd for eight years.

00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:31.440
Then I moved up to PV, like Thunderbird and Tatum, yeah, for about eight.

00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:34.720
And that's where I started creating all the the training Macs.

00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:47.839
Moved down, kind of shelf the stuff for a little while, didn't come in contact with the right investors, and and the fabrication started coming, just blowing up the custom fabrication for everything.

00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:48.319
Yeah.

00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.559
And then that business started taking off.

00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:55.759
And but this is what this is what makes me that gets my blood going.

00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:01.200
So before I'm in a a rocking chair, the one with wheels, yeah, I gotta get this stuff out.

00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:09.759
I have a feeling you're gonna fabricate like a wheelchair for yourself, but with like square wheels, just so it's harder for you to get along.

00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:10.799
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.119
Like that's you know, I joke about that.

00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:21.119
But before we get into these actual, like what you're making, uh, what's your personal routine like?

00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.279
Well, he said he changes every day.

00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:29.359
Well, so is there some type of structure like do you do you drink caffeine?

00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:30.960
Do you stay away from alcohol?

00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:34.400
People are like, ah, you don't eat bad food.

00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:36.160
Because I am I am a robot.

00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:40.079
Like I know what the way you need to eat for human performance.

00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:42.160
I know what the baseline of what you need.

00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:44.960
So people ask me, hey, let's go out to lunch or this or that.

00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:51.359
I mean, I went with Tyler, grab a sandwich here and there, but somebody's like, middle of the day, hey, two o'clock, let's go eat.

00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:54.079
Ah man, I'm in the middle of my fourth meal.

00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:58.960
Like, then when night comes, I'll eat big meal, and I might cheat a little bit.

00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:03.359
But I'm I'm underneath it all as long as I get my baseline.

00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:04.240
I'm normal.

00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:08.400
I just had a large deep disc cheese from Luminati's the other day.

00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.440
Do you try to balance carbs or anything like that?

00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:12.720
Oh, of course.

00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:13.119
Okay.

00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:19.119
I mean, you know, you what is the baseline I need for energy?

00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:26.240
Now you take somebody who who their body composition is 95% muscle and they don't have body fat.

00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:33.759
You you can that's that's so there's the overgeneralization in the nutrition, the supplement, all these industries.

00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:37.039
Everybody wants to put everybody in that same hole.

00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:40.000
Yeah, you you can't, everybody, everybody's different.

00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:46.799
Like people that are training three, four hours a day, yeah, you can't you have to understand that there's variance there.

00:33:47.440 --> 00:34:01.680
So between metal fabrication training, going 12, 14 hours a day, then me training a couple to two, three hours a day or whatever, you got your your nutritional intake's gotta be a little bit different than the average person.

00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:01.920
Yeah.

00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:18.000
And if you're gonna tell me, oh, I don't want to get on the vegan, if you're gonna tell me that I can get all of my sound protein and nutrients from eating that plant right there, I would need to eat 30 of those plants, and I'm still gonna be.

00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:21.360
So let's let's kind of so different different structures.

00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:22.079
I know.

00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:26.559
I'm just gonna we've talked about the Netflix propaganda vegan.00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:27.519


What works for you?00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:29.920


This is what I'm trying to get into, not like all the time.00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.639


I'm trying, I'm trying to I'm trying to live a little more.00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:43.679


I went through a period where I didn't eat any sugar, I didn't drink, everything was literally like it wasn't food, it was just something to put in my body for for performance.00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.920


But like, hey, I I like chocolate.00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:48.239


Okay.00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:50.079


I like in moderation.00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:50.719


Yeah, yeah.00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:52.480


I like drinking beer.00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:56.960


But it's maybe I'll go out, maybe I'll have two beers, and maybe it's once a week.00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:57.280


Yeah.00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:05.599


People ask if you drink, nothing is going to affect you or kill you in such a low dose moderation.00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:07.679


But you know, yeah.00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:15.599


So I'm I'm very yes, routine, but I'm not, you know, people think that oh you don't you don't eat that, you don't do this.00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:36.239


Yeah, but also like it's kind of like um when people are like jumping on Mike Phelps for hitting a bong uh while he was winning like six gold medals, it's like this he's hitting a bong eating 10,000 calories to 20,000 calories a day, but he's also swimming for like 10 hours a day.00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:41.599


So it does vary like what is your activity level and what you're trying to get out of it.00:35:42.079 --> 00:36:04.559


I mean, once again, we're always gonna have the the ridiculous arguments, and unless people, the general public will take the initiative to study a little bit, yeah, right, for themselves about pretty much the most important thing in their lives, right?00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:10.639


Yeah, learn how to train it, learn how to heal it, learn how to rehab it, learn how to feed it.00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:20.320


Instead of paying attention to every fucking trend that comes down that and then you know, one of the fuels for the reason I have too much that I I still need to teach.00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:25.360


I was filming, I have 80 gigs of film from over 10, 12 years ago.00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.639


Yeah, Tyler is on my ass, like should have been getting this shit out a long time ago.00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:44.880


Yeah, the stuff I was doing 12, 13 years ago, but I have so much ammunition because of the variety of things I was doing day in and day out, and my self-study because I study everything so much, and then all the questions that I've been asked over the years.00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:47.039


And a lot of them let's work it out and get it out.00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:49.039


Let's I mean, all these questions.00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:54.239


It's like now I want there needs to be a proponent, right?00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:56.880


It's gotten so much worse because social media is so rampant.00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:14.559


Yeah, and now I go on there and like okay, this guy is 6'4, 250 pounds, jacked, and he's on there doing calisthenics, trying to teach kids and other people that you're this is this is what you're gonna get from doing these calisthenics, yeah.00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:15.920


And people will believe it.00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:18.719


Just like the whole just like the whole vegan thing.00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:26.480


You know how many people asked me about like, did you watch the Netflix episode on vegans where they compared the twins?00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.760


And I'm like, I'm like, it's propaganda.00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:34.800


I'm like, if you look at the actual study, it's faulted study, it's not true.00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:40.559


Everything they posed, like the vegans were eating less than the people that were eating meat.00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:48.719


So there obviously there's decreased calorie intake, and that's the exact amount of weight they lost was if you take the calories into effect.00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:50.159


But but but there you go.00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:58.000


And then but they they show someone that's like 6'4, 270 pounds, full of muscle, and he's vegan.00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:00.159


I'm like, you're not I'm like, You're not getting that.00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:01.760


I'm like, see that's the top.00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:12.159


See what that's the one person that's like got that, and he probably was unvegan at the time when he got to that position.00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:16.880


And there's a lot of other things other than plants, yeah, that are getting him that way.00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:24.079


Yeah, and I I would like to say being vegan is like one of the most hilarious things in my mind.00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:32.320


Like people used to like brag when we I was training in boss at what I don't, I don't, I try not to so I try not to put people down.00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:32.800


Yeah, yeah.00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:46.159


I I will get on a soapbox and I'm gonna develop a lot of a lot of people, adversaries, yeah, when I when I eventually get into this whole bodybuilding industry, right?00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:51.280


But if people would just pay attention, their attention span is five seconds long.00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:53.840


They want to hear the headline, and then that's law.00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:56.320


Yeah, pay fucking attention.00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:58.480


Yeah, pay attention to the whole story.00:38:58.559 --> 00:38:58.719


Yeah.00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:13.119


I don't mind what vegan works for you, great, yeah, but I bet you your activity level, the amount of lean muscle you carry in your body, your body composition, your metabolism, and what you do on a daily basis is not like me.00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:25.519


Yeah, and if you're trying to just lose weight and you don't give a shit if you're strong anymore or if you you're building muscle, there's just all these variables, but everybody wants to over-generalize everything, and there's the headline, and this is fucking law.00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:26.000


Yeah, yeah.00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:28.559


So that's that's the only thing one I want to clarify.00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:35.760


Being vegan is hilarious, and people who train to run marathons, not professionally, is hilarious too.00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:40.559


Those are the two things I I do find funny that people do vegans.00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:44.320


I understand you don't want to hurt animals, but yeah.00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:50.559


Look, the the only thing that that bothers me, I don't do you the works.00:39:50.719 --> 00:40:01.280


Yeah, the thing that bothers me is when you start injecting this is what you should do into everybody's bowl and overgeneralizing and then brainwashing people.00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:02.320


That's the part that I don't know.00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:11.280


One thing I wanted to bring up, you talked about grip strength, and you know, like Peter Tia on his like in his book, and then like it's been on social media.00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.320


Did you write that book before or after you went to Epstein's Island?00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:15.039


I don't know.00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:23.760


Multiple different people said the same thing, like they're like, Oh, increased grip strength equals longevity.00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:37.440


And I'm like, but like grips, there's a lot more that goes into grip strength than you think, and that's why the people with improved grip strength have that, you know, like you can't just try to build grip strength, and that's it.00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:41.440


So what we say in medical research is it causative or correlative?00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:50.159


Okay, like does it correlate because you're healthier, you have more grip strength, or you're gonna just go do a gripper and you're gonna live 10 years longer.00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:57.119


Well, you two are logical enough and well educated enough to make that deduction.00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:04.400


Yeah, the general public, no offense, general public, are not.00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:04.880


Yeah.00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:11.599


So we're continuously grabbing these fucking headlines and changing the world because of them.00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:13.760


And the fucking posers are the worst of them.00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:14.400


Yeah, yeah.00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:15.199


The worst.00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:20.960


They've completely infested the whole industry and these kids and everybody, the shock and awe.00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:23.440


There's a dude that like literally can't move.00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:28.000


He has body parts and muscle groups that have not even been named yet.00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:28.719


Yeah.00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:32.239


That is not normal, and that's not human performance.00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:41.280


Yeah, and that's not, and then there are trainers going around training uh people like that, single-joint exercises, thinking they're gonna mold a tricep.00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:45.280


Isolate, isolated, yeah, single joint, like they're gonna mold a tricep.00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:52.559


I saw a trainer with a 75-year-old woman who literally took her 10 minutes to walk to the next machine.00:41:52.639 --> 00:42:01.760


Yeah, and I kid you not, while he stood there with his fucking clipboard, great, great, she was doing a single arm tricep pushdown.00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:03.599


Yeah, and I wanted to snap.00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:06.400


Yeah, I'm like, this should be a crime.00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.599


Yeah, like it should there should you get some kind of violation or something.00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:11.599


Yeah, like elderly abuse.00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:15.119


I mean, it's not even abuse, just what are you doing?00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:23.920


This woman is giving her money and her time for you just fucking her whole world up and maybe not even getting hurt, but not getting a damn thing out of it.00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:28.719


Oh, look like I my wife forced me to go to these Pilates classes.00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:29.599


We did two.00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.400


There were actually now you're gonna get me on another soapbox.00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:34.400


Yeah, so I did three.00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:37.039


The first one, the guy actually knew what he was talking about.00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:39.039


How much time you got?00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:50.480


The second two I went to were at a chain place, two different coaches, but they went through all the same movements two days in a row, and I'm like, what the fuck?00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:52.880


I'm like, I'm never going to this shit again.00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:54.639


And I'm like, they're teaching you nothing.00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:56.320


Yeah, you can just hurt yourself.00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:01.440


Now I'm gonna be since I just went off on 50 different demographics.00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:02.719


Let's get going on Pilates.00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:10.400


I'm gonna play devil's advocate mask from you being so well-rounded with training and experience, so many different types of training.00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:24.639


If if it did change it up a little bit, what out of anything was there anything that maybe you did like, or you could tell somebody, okay, this could be good for this, or for he was able to put his foot behind his head.00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:38.000


No, I didn't I didn't like I just didn't think like they took you through the right movement because I like I knew the first one I went to, the guy was much better versed and well trained and knew Pilates.00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:47.360


This one, like I felt like it was this oh those overnight you get a coaching certification and you get to just go and like, oh, this is the next exercise.00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:54.320


Similar to like even yoga, you're taught similar things, so like the better.00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:59.679


No, it's the more with Pilates you can do quite a bit, and it was just like it was just like00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:11.840


So, we're entering the the conversation where here's the problem.00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:19.119


People think training, exercise is just that.00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:19.519


Yeah.00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.320


Oh, well, I'm I'm doing Pilates two days a week.00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:22.559


Yeah.00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.280


And then I do spin once a week.00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:27.360


Oh, I'm doing cardio box.00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:27.679


Yeah.00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:28.320


Right?00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:30.239


So okay.00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:36.800


You can get now you're training four hours a week in what's 24 times out 100 and how many hours a week is that?00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:37.199


Yeah.00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:37.920


A lot.00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:40.400


And you really need you really want to change your body.00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:40.880


Yeah.00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:42.880


You're not even scratching the surface.00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:43.440


Yeah.00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:52.320


People do not have enough time to be jumping from one form of training to the other that only touches this part of your physiology.00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:52.719


Yeah.00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:53.199


Okay.00:44:53.679 --> 00:45:02.400


So we need people who who see that and are starting to incorporate all facets, isometrics, ply metrics, stretching, endurance, strength.00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:03.519


Jazz or size.00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:05.679


Jazzer size are fucking amazing.00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:10.320


I mean so it's a good thing.00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:14.239


But hey, look, but the problem is people start going.00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:14.480


Yeah.00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:18.719


They develop friendships and like oh, I see my people.00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:18.960


Yeah.00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:21.440


Then they develop relationships with a trainer, whoever.00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:26.320


I always used to tell my clients, I'm like, I'm gonna tell you right now, I don't give a shit how much you like me.00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:26.880


Yeah.00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:33.360


If you're if you get to a point where you think you can find something better somewhere else, I please go find it.00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:33.760


Yeah.00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:38.559


They couldn't because you can't do the shit I was doing anywhere else because they haven't designed it yet.00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:38.800


Yeah.00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:40.000


Right.00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:42.239


But that's the problem.00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.440


And then you go to some of these other places like boxing.00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:45.760


Yeah.00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:47.039


Boxing's amazing.00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:56.320


Amazing sport, maybe with a real box trainer, but still for somebody who's looking like that's their three to four hours of training a week, one-dimensional.00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:56.639


Yeah.00:45:56.880 --> 00:46:00.480


All chest and shoulders, and they're probably not throwing punches right.00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:05.119


Yeah, so they're just sitting there going like this on a bag, and then they do some push-ups, and then they go to the middle.00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:06.639


How'd you know I box like that?00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:07.679


They look like that.00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:10.639


The wrists, and then they're oh my wrists hurt.00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:13.199


I can't do box, I can't go do cardio box anymore.00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:15.360


It's a fucking reason because that's all you're doing.00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:16.400


Yeah, yeah, right?00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:17.840


Go do kickboxing.00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:19.119


But then there's another issue.00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:21.039


They're throwing kicks like roquettes, yeah.00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:26.880


And it's all hip flexor, and they're not changing it up and doing it, it's it's it's America, man.00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:27.280


It's fast.00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:36.639


Everybody takes off every industry, everybody's gonna start opening them up everywhere and you know, teaching, and and same thing with yoga.00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:39.119


You know, yoga can be absolutely amazing.00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:40.960


I go six to seven days a week now.00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:42.480


Yeah, yeah, yoga, yoga.00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:46.320


I I love yoga, but but it but it has to be legit.00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:46.800


Yep, yeah.00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:51.679


You it's it's patience, it's mind, it's internal, and and balance it.00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.079


How are your shoulders with yoga?00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:56.400


Because like that's what hurts my dog.00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:00.559


Like, I always position which positions hurt you most.00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:02.320


I know like a lot of instructors.00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:07.440


Everything's fucked up.00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:09.440


Yeah, I mean they want to fuse my right wrist.00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:11.679


They're like, the only thing we can do now is fuse your wrist.00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:13.039


Yeah, nothing else we can do.00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:16.960


So I have to think about whether or not to never be able to bend my wrist again to be without pain.00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:19.599


Yeah, how much more it's completely fused?00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:20.400


Yeah, no.00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:20.960


No, okay.00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:23.679


No, I didn't do it yet.00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:24.639


I got him, yes.00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:27.760


But but it's think about think about it.00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:29.679


Think about net not being able to bend it.00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:32.320


Oh no, especially especially for you, you weld in the case.00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:33.519


So ideal, ideal.00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:35.599


Oh, that's your strong hand too.00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:37.920


If you were to that's your your right-handed, right?00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:38.639


What's that?00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:40.000


You're right-handed, right?00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:42.400


So that's I mean, it's my dominant, yeah.00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:50.800


Yeah, and and you know, I mean, I've got cervical issues that have caused a lot of, you know, but I had four full dislocations.00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:54.239


One time I had to get put to sleep for them to put it back in because they couldn't pull it back in.00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:57.440


Yeah, and they're like, probably an anterior dislocation.00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:01.679


Oh, it was the chip, the pec muscles pulled it in the pec and they couldn't get it.00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:06.800


So they told me when I came out, we wrapped a sheet around your body and just yanked that shit back in.00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.599


I gotta ask you one question, you as well.00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:18.159


Do you feel that the smellier your yoga instructors are, the more like the better they are?00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:25.679


Like, if you walk in and the studio smells like Kari, you're like, I'm getting a really good fucking stretch in today.00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:27.280


Dude, that's being racist.00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:32.480


I mean, I'm just saying, it's kind of gonna be disgusting.00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:35.760


No, if you guys agree with it, then it might not be racist.00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.079


I'm just trying to look for self-affirmation.00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:43.440


Now in jujitsu, that's a fucking tactic.00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:51.119


First guy I trained with an old gnarly like Olympic judoka, and that dude would stand his gi up in the corner for two weeks.00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:51.920


Oh my god.00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:53.440


And he didn't give a fuck.00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:54.639


And I'll tell you what.00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:56.239


No tapeworm and shit like that.00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:56.960


Not tapeworm.00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:57.599


Ringworm.00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:00.400


Well, I mean, you're gonna get a ringworm.00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:02.800


Build a defense against lucky, you know.00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:17.119


I mean, I think probably got it all over the place at one point, but you get in some compromising positions, yeah, and you got that dude's crotch, and you're taking heavy deep breaths, and you suck that ghee pants right in your mouth.00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:21.519


Like, so I was just taking your yoga thing one step further because you might have another.00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:22.800


I'll tell you.00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:24.159


But people do that, right?00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:26.880


Yeah, but but that's fucking nasty.00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:33.519


There was there was this one kid in a from a school, he went for weigh-ins in his underwear.00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:38.559


Dude, at the biggest skid mark from the outside of his underwear.00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:42.639


We just get into shit stories now.00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:49.199


Oh yeah, I was just like, oh my god, if I face this guy, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna like forfeit or something.00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:51.039


I'm not getting close to those skid marks.00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:52.159


No oil check there?00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:53.039


No, none.00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:55.119


This was I I couldn't believe it.00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:57.840


I'm like, are you wiping your ass with your underwear?00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:04.559


This looks like a shit stain from like you used your underwear to wipe your ass for like a good month straight.00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:08.480


Like, this should not be a reason that much of your underwear is brown.00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:10.320


At least get a colored underwear.00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:10.719


I don't know.00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:12.480


I think he wanted it seen.00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:16.480


I think that's why now that you say it, I'm like, that's probably why he did it.00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:17.599


Yeah.00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:18.400


Yeah, yeah.00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:20.079


There was this guy with a deformed.00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:21.760


Here I go.00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:24.800


This guy with a deformed leg that looked like a shark bit.00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:25.920


Lymphedema.00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:27.840


He had lymphedema.00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:37.679


And my friend had to wrestle him, and he went in there like unorthodox, threw a quick headlock, pinned him in five seconds.00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:41.360


We're like, wow, that's like the best you've ever looked on the mat.00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:45.280


He was like, Yeah, I was trying to do anything to not touch that leg.00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:49.119


It was all cold and it just looked weird.00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:51.280


We're kids, we're like, What is that?00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:57.199


Well, could you imagine if gone going up against uh who was the got kid from ASU?00:50:57.440 --> 00:50:59.679


Yeah, no, no legs, or was it one leg?00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:00.320


One leg.00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:01.519


Yeah, he was a beast.00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:06.800


And and you know damn well people will go in there and and get face off and be like, okay, I'm gonna kind of take it easy.00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:08.320


And next thing you know, they're getting fucking.00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:10.639


That kid ended up getting better though.00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:12.000


He did, he did.00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:24.480


But but again, that ASU kid that that would put you up for like so like I couldn't imagine because I was always good at double legs, and you only had one leg, so what would I do on the mat?00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:26.320


Imagination, man.00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:27.360


I'm kidding.00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:28.639


I was actually single-legged.00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:34.960


But that's kind of what I'm saying, is people probably went in there thinking, and then when you watch it, because he you know, he had a movie.00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:37.920


Because you'll have your favorite leg to go after.00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:56.079


No, but either either way, after after one year of him wrestling at the level he was wrestling, how good he was, everybody walking on that mat, even if you were like top-notch ranked close to him, you're a shit in your pants facing somebody like that because you're about to get stuck with somebody missing a limb.00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:58.000


Like, I'd that's how I would feel.00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:01.760


I don't know about you, but I'd be like, Holy crap, this is gonna take a lot of work.00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:04.000


He's really good and has one less limb.00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:08.320


He got strong and he developed around that.00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:09.760


Yeah, yep, right, yeah.00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:18.960


And you know, it's positioning hip and body weight in another because you're probably building your core to stabilize that on that one.00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:23.920


It's a perfect example of what everybody should be doing.00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:30.400


Yeah, there's not that we necessarily have to compensate for something that dramatic, but everybody should be.00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:38.960


That's why you need variety and you need to continue to change things, and you you know, because there's there's a lot that's unexplored.00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:40.719


There's a lot that we're missing.00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:41.119


Okay.00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:43.440


And got go for it.00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:52.239


One quote on that is just it tells it is effective preparation with what we already know may work.00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:59.440


But facing stimulus or the battle of the unknown creates a resilience that's extraordinary.00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:01.599


Sorry, I've done it.00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:08.800


I've done it with people, I've done it with normal middle-aged, I've done it with athletes, and it it's it's the truth.00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:24.000


It's like when you continue to face things, a stimulus, training, whatever, mind what you guys are doing, continuing to circumvent problems and and and reinventing and changing and cases, and you you become more extraordinary.00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:24.639


Period.00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:34.000


You are gonna you're always gonna run circles around the person that wants to stick with this foundation that that's all they know, and they've only been around people like this works, I'm good.00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:35.920


Yeah, well, you you you be good.00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:37.039


Yeah, yeah.00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:43.440


So I know we're running short on time, but can we go into what the battle bar is, please?00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:51.840


Yeah, so you know, along the lines of that, I all all the things I design, they they have to be dynamic.00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:54.400


There are very few benches, there's no place to sit.00:53:54.719 --> 00:54:03.920


You know, you're you're using your base, you're using your core, you're using but I bat way back, I have to give credit where credit's due.00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:17.280


I mean, so I'd say 25 years ago, I did a uh a camp with one of the Redskins back in the day, Redskins, uh, strength coaches, and I learned some amazing manual resistance techniques.00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:21.760


And ever since then, anybody I train, you're never getting away with inanimate weight.00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:27.360


I'm always gonna be pushing, I'm always gonna find advantages or disadvantages and make things tougher.00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:31.440


And then the second I'm not there, everything is just like holy shit.00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:34.000


So I started coining HOF training.00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:35.840


It's it's human oppositional force.00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:37.760


People look at it, it's just a bar.00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.480


And there are a lot of people that will probably shrug at it.00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:44.239


But I like to get the strongest of the strong going against each other.00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:50.960


Your dynamic resistance is is probably the smartest kind of resistance that I could ever go up against.00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:58.559


And me doing it with a client or whatever, I know that they're never gonna get a resistance that can adapt on the fly.00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:01.360


Where they start gaining advantages, I can push harder.00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:03.840


Where they have disadvantages, I can let off a little bit.00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:08.800


You can start kids training earlier because they're not throwing inanimate weights around the wrong way.00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:13.440


But balance exercises, the handles rotate 360 degrees.00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:22.079


So every single time I've put somebody on this right away, X NFL guys, big guys, all of a sudden I just send them back.00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:24.000


And like, whoa, whoa, wait a second.00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:24.880


You know why that is?00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:27.679


Because you're so used to sitting on machines and laying on benches.00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:32.880


You need to develop that same amount of strength and standing on your own two feet.00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:52.400


So you need base first, but you can do full range of motion strength exercises, you can do max isometric exercises, um, you know, so and then all kinds of stabilization, like you you you you insert an external force, you know, standing on one leg.00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:54.639


Well, that's easy after a little while.00:55:54.719 --> 00:56:06.000


But what about when you start throwing in some external force that's moving you around and and you know, watch dudes do the the one of my things that I hate the most is agility ladders.00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:09.280


And they're stepping on it, they're not even on the box.00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:11.840


I'm like, you you could do that with your eyes closed, you've been doing it for years.00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:21.760


Now, what about when somebody is adding external forces, like a running back is getting hit and they have to move, and you know, so yeah, it's it's all dynamic force.00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:27.440


I've got competitions with it, but it's just I couldn't leave it alone.00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:40.400


I even have uh fixed training mechanisms that somebody will look at and think it's like an isolateral strength machine, but then they look closer and you can lock the rotors and lock it at different angles and oppose force with somebody on the other side.00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:41.199


Oh, okay.00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:50.800


And until you until you experience it and experience, well, wait a second, this resistance isn't moving the way I want it to.00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:53.599


That barbell and the dumbbells move when I want it to.00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:54.880


I know what it's gonna do.00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:57.679


Then you get up against somebody else, it's like, oh shit.00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:04.159


You know, and it it's also the most intelligent kind of resistance that you can find.00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:16.320


How m so both ends rotate three hundred six degrees, or you can lock it, or you can lock it, and then if you lock it, obviously you have to resist the torque and the yeah, you know, the force on somebody else.00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:21.360


Yeah, but you know, push, pull, rotational, core stuff, balance stuff.00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:23.360


How much does it weigh?00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:26.639


I gotta weigh this one again.00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:27.599


This is the pro.00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:29.679


This is for approximately, you know.00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:36.239


So this is probably barbell's 45, maybe 15.00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:37.199


Okay.00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:39.039


Uh it's 18 pounds.00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:39.360


Okay.00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:40.960


But even that, think about it.00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:48.800


When whenever you're doing a pressing motion, what other pressing motions do you do on machines where you also kind of have to hold the bar up?00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:48.960


Yeah.00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:50.960


So you're working adults and everything, too.00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:51.360


Yeah.00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:56.159


So then I also have a light which is half the size for kids and you know, is shorter.00:57:56.400 --> 00:58:00.239


That's what I'm asking you for because we want to do some stuff with my daughter.00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:09.519


Oh man, for kids, I've got a kid that's coming by tomorrow who's like undersized, is playing baseball, and I want to show them, you know, kids that are young.00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:18.239


Yeah, you can sit there and get them to, you know, learn what forces and and get their base and rotate and move around it.00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:22.480


And you're not taking weights and throwing them at them too early.00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:27.119


Because then I don't care what you do, they shouldn't be, you know, jerking things with their joints.00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:28.079


Yeah, definitely.00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.880


So here with this, you're in control.00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:33.920


You can get them to move fluidly and the way they should.00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.519


You can you can add the right amount of resistance and you can help them when they need it.00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:40.159


So it's another person on the other side.00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:41.199


What's that?00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:42.800


So it's two people.00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:43.599


Yes.00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:44.719


At all times.00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:45.920


So yeah.00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:47.199


So that's one of the things people like.00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:48.000


Reflex, reflex.00:58:48.239 --> 00:58:49.840


Well, you need you need two people.00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:51.440


Yeah, you need two people.00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:51.920


Yeah.00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:56.639


But when when you actually every time I pick it up with someone, I'm just like, man.00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:01.280


Like you can some people think finding somebody else is hard.00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:04.639


I always say, Well, this guy found a wife.00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:09.280


No, but but it not until you actually do it.00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:12.960


And then you can you can max out on strength.00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:16.800


I mean, you can you get somebody else match, you can do max strength stuff with it.00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:21.599


But the difference is you you you better have a good base.00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:22.079


Yeah.00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:23.440


Or you're getting driven back.00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:30.079


And one of the competitions I have with it on a 50-yard field, you have to start pushing for 30 seconds.00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:30.400


Yeah.00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:35.599


Stop, set it down, go around the other side, and you have to pull, and you have to get that person across your goal line.00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:42.880


And I've done it with 30 yard, and most of the people I've done it with, they can barely even get each other their toes.00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:43.519


Yeah.00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:47.039


The um can you order them online?00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:47.840


Not yet.00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:48.400


Not yet.00:59:48.639 --> 00:59:49.119


Not yet.00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:55.039


This is something that has been sitting and so it's exclusive at your gym.00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:55.840


It is.00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:58.960


And first time it's actually being shown on your podcast.00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:00.000


Oh, awesome.01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:09.519


Because it's been, you know, I've I've had patent on it for a while, and like I said, I kind of went off on a tangent and I was gonna ask you, have you seen the Gripzilla?01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:11.119


Because you make these stuff.01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:17.280


The grip gripzilla is like it's made for grip strength, but it rotates at all angles.01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:24.000


It it actually like what you're describing kind of mat they have the one that you just rotational, right?01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:25.119


They just rotate.01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:28.159


This one actually like you can the handles, yeah.01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:36.320


So one is here, one is here, and yeah, yeah, and you're like it actually like moves like different angles too, and it's got resistance.01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:43.199


It's got and you can put quite a bit of resistance, but like that works your shoulders, your arms, your chest.01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:51.679


Like, like when I watch myself in the mirror doing it, it's like it's tort up your alley of like some of the stuff that you can do.01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:54.880


Engage with other muscles that you wouldn't expect to when you're working out.01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:57.440


Because I was like, Oh, this is great, and how's it working out?01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:02.800


But it's like really engaging all other parts of you, and that's like where you you know.01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:09.440


I I don't know that I I don't know if I've seen that particular one, but these days it's impossible.01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:17.440


No, because this second I click on that, if I look at it online, oh come, they're gonna be like 30 other variations, and it's just gonna be non-stop.01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:20.400


And that's what I won't touch.01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:25.519


Yeah, like I don't I don't care to build the things that are out there.01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:27.599


I only want to focus on things.01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:29.920


It might do something that other things do.01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:35.599


Like I'm building a a step-up stretch, uh hip thrust.01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:37.920


There's all different kinds of things you can do with it.01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:44.719


Yeah slides, can put posts in it, bands, you know, but it it has to be super dynamic.01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.280


Yeah, you have to be able to do multiple things with it.01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:50.159


Or I don't, I don't really care to do it.01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:54.960


Yeah, you know, I mean I've even been making my own bands and shot cords for 25 years.01:01:55.119 --> 01:02:00.639


Yeah, you know, I don't even buy those from you know, I get them and and make them all myself.01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:04.960


And I put redheads and eye hooks in the ground all over the place, the whole gym.01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:08.320


You take them out, you screw them in, and you have yourself a plyo jumper.01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:10.800


You know, I had them on all the machines everywhere.01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:11.760


People don't even know.01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:16.719


I'd screw them in there and attach bands to the machines, and that was 25 years ago.01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:17.119


Yeah.01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:23.199


So it's it's just I'm constantly looking at trying to create.01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:27.599


Yeah, not saying that any more special than anywhere on else.01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:31.119


It's just that I want to find extraordinary, yeah.01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:34.320


Out of the ordinary, yeah, not better than.01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:35.280


Who knows?01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:37.519


Yeah, but I think we need to seek like that.01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:38.159


Yeah.01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:39.039


All right.01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:42.559


So where where can people find I think so?01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:43.760


Are we over time?01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:46.400


I had a 10-minute warning like 30 minutes ago.01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:47.119


Soon.01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:48.719


It's engineers of HP.01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:50.880


Engineersofhp.com?01:02:51.199 --> 01:02:52.000


Well, no, no.01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:57.760


I'm on Instagram and just working on getting all the platforms up now.01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:02.400


I mean, I'm literally just sliding back in and really.01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:07.760


All right, and people looking like myself to like get their kids involved, possibly.01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:09.519


How can we reach you?01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:11.840


Or is it through the engineers of HP?01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:15.599


Oh, you can reach I mean phone, email.01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:18.719


I mean others, it's gonna be by referral right now.01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:19.519


Okay, obviously.01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:20.880


But yeah, okay, you know.01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:24.800


You know, and that's that's what I'm focusing on.01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:36.239


I'm not gonna be training full time, I'm you know, exclusive few and the ones that you know really care about doing something out of the ordinary.01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:39.760


How like how often are people coming when they're training with you?01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:41.840


Are they come five days a week, seven days a week?01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:46.880


No, I tell them it just depends on what they're scheduled, they're they're they're looking for.01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:47.360


Yeah.01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:50.639


I mean, I'm good with one to two days a week.01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:52.320


Let me be your shock.01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:52.880


Okay.01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:53.920


I'm gonna be your shock.01:03:54.000 --> 01:04:00.320


I'm gonna go back to I'm gonna change your mind and I'm gonna freak you the fuck out.01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:01.280


I like that.01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:01.599


Yeah.01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:04.719


And they no, I want you to come, I want you to come train.01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:05.519


Yeah, definitely.01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:09.679


Uh and I will change your mind.01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:11.440


One day a week ain't gonna do anything.01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:13.440


After a little while, it will physically, yeah.01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:15.199


But it will, it will change you.01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:19.920


It'll change your mentality when you go into the gym by yourself, and I can guarantee that.01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:25.679


Like I guarantee it with people, you it'll it'll change you because it's gonna be so out.01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:28.800


I mean, it's just it's it's always gonna be something different.01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:35.840


Yeah, and it's just and hey, if I throw 200 things at you, two or three of them got to stick.01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:36.880


Yeah, yeah, right.01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:39.199


And then I continue to do that, yeah.01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:43.679


So, you know, but hey, people want to train with me more than that.01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:52.000


It's just like you know, and I'm not saying I won't do basic compound lifts and you know, but I try to throw wrench in there and find different ways to do it.01:04:52.079 --> 01:05:05.840


Yeah, so I like when people at least stay consistent and get that shock, yeah, you know, so you know, a couple days a week or whatever that because that's another thing that's a problem with a lot of people, they don't know how to periodize their workouts.01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:10.320


Yeah, they're like, oh, I did arm day yesterday, yeah, yeah.01:05:10.719 --> 01:05:12.719


I did push or I did upper body, yeah.01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:15.840


Yeah, would would you do the day after?01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:19.199


Well, I did some shoulders and I did what'd you do that?01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:21.199


Oh, I did some back and some.01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:29.280


I'm like, if if you're really going hard enough to shock the body, nah man, like you can't keep doing this just because you love it.01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:30.960


Yeah, you can't keep doing the same shit.01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:32.639


You have to you have to know how to period.01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:34.880


A lot of people just get into the motions after all.01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:37.119


And and and and then that's when you drop off, too.01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:39.119


But and there's a big ego component.01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:43.039


Yeah, why is it that a lot of people like doing push and chest so much?01:05:43.199 --> 01:05:43.360


Yeah.01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:45.679


Well, one, it's the part they can see in the mirror, yeah.01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:46.559


Bottom line.01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:47.119


Yeah, yeah.01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:51.440


But the back and the legs are much tougher.01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:53.360


They take three times the amount of oxygen.01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:55.920


Yeah, nobody loves hidden legs hard.01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:59.840


Yeah, chest is the easiest, and it's what people can see, and you don't.01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:01.440


Get the growth hormone release.01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:02.239


Hell no.01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:02.639


No.01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:04.960


Like with chest, you get almost none.01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:08.960


It's an it's an ego pump and it is easier.01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:09.599


Yeah.01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:15.519


But I guarantee you, if there's one area that people probably do, yeah.01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:18.480


Well, I'm not saying everybody, they're no, it's common.01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:19.440


Not me.01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:19.760


Yeah.01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:25.920


I didn't say everybody, but the the the general, the masses, if if, right?01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:27.440


But that's in other things.01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:30.079


Like if you intensity is really there.01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:36.880


I was telling guys just on Saturday, I'm like, look, I know you guys are failing because you'll fail right away and you're dying.01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:39.760


But this set, or this 10 more seconds.01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:45.360


And I guarantee you, when this hour is over, 10 minutes later, you're like, okay, well, now I feel good.01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:47.199


Well, your time's done.01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:50.800


You had the chance to kill it and go to failure then.01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:51.280


Yeah.01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:53.679


So I call them battles.01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:55.360


They they shouldn't be workouts.01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:56.960


That should be the toughest thing you do.01:06:57.199 --> 01:06:57.360


Yeah.01:06:57.440 --> 01:06:59.039


And you should need a break after that.01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:01.280


If you don't, well then cool.01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:04.880


Hopefully you're staying fit and you're good.01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:10.800


But if you're really looking for change, very often the intensity is not there for people.01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:11.679


It's just not.01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:13.679


I can't wait to get started.01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:14.800


Very slowly.01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:21.360


I I I no, I I wanted I wanted to try to get you guys down before we did this, but no, for sure.01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:25.599


I want you to come come do some nice do some work.