July 30, 2025

Olympians Don’t Age Like the Rest of Us. Here’s Why!

What if your biggest injury became your biggest breakthrough? Fitness champion Whitney Jones reveals how she kept competing after a brutal shoulder dislocation and broken collarbone—all during the Olympia. From cold plunges to resistance band workouts, she shares how mental toughness, smart training, and putting yourself first can transform the way you age, move, and live. Want to build strength without burnout? Hit play and get inspired.

What if your biggest injury became your biggest breakthrough?

Fitness champion Whitney Jones reveals how she kept competing after a brutal shoulder dislocation and broken collarbone—all during the Olympia.

From cold plunges to resistance band workouts, she shares how mental toughness, smart training, and putting yourself first can transform the way you age, move, and live.

Want to build strength without burnout? Hit play and get inspired.

00:00 - Meeting Whitney Jones, Pro Fitness Athlete

06:07 - Injury Prevention and Physical Therapy

10:47 - Training Philosophy and Client Specialization

19:22 - From Amateur to Professional Fitness Champion

29:37 - Daily Routine and Workout Consistency

35:31 - Cold Plunging Benefits and Mental Toughness

49:19 - Fasting and Body Reset Strategies

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Hi, I'm Dr Ruzbitt-Tarabi at Age Proof Podcast, and this is Dr Rob Bitt-Tarabi, and we have Whitney Jones with us today and we're talking about longevity, her practices and what she's done throughout her career.

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So what did you do to your shoulders, like well?

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uh, so I'm a pro athlete, I do fitness competitions and gosh, trying to remember the first few times the last one I was on stage at olympia and was doing one of my tricks a front flip kip yeah and I had kind of tweaked it a few weeks earlier and just adrenaline pushed off of it yeah and my shoulder dislocated, ended up tearing the rotator cuff and then broke my collarbone just from that movement Mid flip.

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Yeah, I know Wasn't pretty, but that was the fifth time that I've injured it.

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So it was like hey woman, are you going to slow down?

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I know.

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I know from for me my shoulders.

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Like you know, I used to bench press like pretty heavily in competition when I was younger in high school and I kind of I used to bench press like pretty heavily in competition when I was younger, yeah, in high school, and I kind of stopped during college Not stopped lifting heavy, but I was still lifting heavy, but stopped doing the competitions but like my shoulders are pretty junk.

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You still bench over 400 at that point, yeah.

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But like my shoulders are just junk and like going to do a breast augmentation you know, it's like the you're like forcing your shoulders and, um, you know, I I've thought about like I got to get stem cells into the shoulders.

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Yeah, yeah.

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At some point.

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I don't see why you wouldn't yeah.

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I know it's just to even alleviate or get the better range of motion.

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Yeah, and a lot of it's also.

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Yeah, I've been trying to get more into range of motion and like stretching, like especially like I keep on hearing knees over toes guys.

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So I went and bought one of those platforms to just like do Nordic curls and back extensions.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Just try to like my posterior chain's just tight as hell, because we stand up there working on a microscope.

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Oh yeah, I can't even imagine.

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Yeah, just honestly, if you just stretch your hamstrings and your pecs, it'll just overall put you in and workout glutes.

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It'll put you in better posture for longer portions of the day yeah.

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So that should like minimize like wear and tear.

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Or even go to those places because, like so many people, like a lot of the day, yeah, yeah, so that should like minimize like wear and tear or even go to those places Cause, like so many people, like a lot of the clients I'd train they're like I'm not going to stretch, I'm like then go pay like stretch lab.

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They're dangerous and do it Stretch lab.

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Stretch lab, absolutely so.

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I agree, I will only send people who are like not super tight or not super member.

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Tell them not to have them touch the neck, because the guy was.

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They touched the neck.

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The guy cranked on my neck and I'm like you're not even a chiro, oh wow, no, I didn't know this and I'm like I already have like herniated C5-6.

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I'm like you got to stop doing what you're doing, and then they kept on texting me to go back.

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I'm like no, to go back.

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I'm like no, I'm like I.

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I came here to stretch out my legs and you're cranking on my neck.

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I'm like, because they're all I'm like.

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You're not even chiropractor.

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These kids are like yeah they're kids, they're basically they're like oh yeah, they've never.

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I went twice just to test it out, but it was all like back lower body.

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That's what I was expecting.

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I was like my lower body.

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I just need my lower body stretched out and like they start, they crank my neck side and I'm like what?

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And my nurse practitioner?

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She actually dissected her carotid and she continues to have issues from a chiropractor oh like wow, yeah, yeah.

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Aggressive adjustments now I'm not a fan of that, so I'm biased, but like, if you're going to go, just go to a manual therapy.

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Certified physical therapist.

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Someone who knows what they're doing with anything right Like make sure whoever you're paying services for that they know what the hell you're doing.

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Yeah, and.

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I did it to just like check it out.

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I'm like oh if it's a place I can go and they just stretch out my legs for me and get me a little more range of motion.

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Then I was like, no, this is fucking oh, that's scary yeah my wife's a therapist, so yeah, no, she does great job yeah, the funny part is I was just like, because they do insurance and they do, in scotts, there's a cash pay patient clientele and I kept asking them for our patients, like cosmetic patients that don't want to go through insurance.

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And when she told me their cash pay price it was like cheaper than massage therapy.

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You're kidding?

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No, I'm not.

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I personally I'm in medicine.

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I always thought like, oh, that'll cost me that much.

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So even if you do have insurance and some people's co-pays are higher than just paying cash out of pocket- well, massage therapy, you're talking about massages.

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Uh, going to like phoenician, or uh?

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well, it's definitely cheaper than that, but it's.

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Yeah, I would say it's close to like.

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But it's very similar to like going yeah, a median, not like because you pay for the amenities, the other places you're paying for, like you know, their hot tubs sure all the different amenities yeah but it was.

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I was just like, oh wow, I didn't, I didn't realize that.

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Yeah, I'm sending more cosmetics patients just over there totally I know how well she's trained and how much schooling she's gone through and anytime we get like aches or something, yeah you're like help?

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yeah, I mean I got.

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Do I still have the?

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bruising from the cuffs.

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Yeah, cupping and needling yeah cupping, dry, needling, kinesio tape, and then the manual therapy is just fantastic.

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But you also have to be adamant about doing stuff yourself.

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So if you're not again, stretches exercises, because some people like, oh, I just want to get massages like that, that'll help and certain manual will help.

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But if you're, if you're not adamant about your how you, it's going to be hard to get better For sure.

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Especially, I mean, who do you train?

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Are you training like athletes or Both I train pro athletes who compete in the world of bodybuilding.

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But I don't train any like bodybuilders, so my specialty when it comes to athletes is females, specifically in the fitness division.

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So that's the division where we do the flips and the jumps and the choreograph routines or bikini athletes, figure athletes, so not the overly muscular, basically anyone that gets on stage and has to flex.

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That's not my forte, it's.

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It's all the divisions lower where it's kind of like a beauty pageant with muscles, or the athletic component, which is the fitness division.

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But then I also train everyday lifestyle clients as well as specialty and pre and postnatal.

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That was always my favorite.

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I'm a mom, so the biggest thing after having kids was like oh my God, am I going to be able to get my body back?

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And clearly there's always cosmetic surgery, but you've got to do your part first.

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Yeah.

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And then, if you can't, that's where you know.

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Well, my wife's been looking for someone, so that's perfect.

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Yeah, right, yeah.

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It's just like those women need that boost of confidence.

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Yeah.

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And you're so tired and you're just.

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You look in the mirror and you're just like what?

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Yeah.

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So just having that was always my favorite.

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To Like what?

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Yeah, so just having that was always my favorite.

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To make time for yourself.

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And that's yeah, that's the biggest thing.

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Like my wife tries to do everything for everyone else and then she's like her time's like the last thing and I'm like no, you got to make your body your priority and she kind of looks down on me for actually doing the total.

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I'm like it's me first, like my I.

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You know we have people to take care of our kids.

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I'm gonna go and do my workouts.

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make sure I'm ready to leave the house when I leave the house and then go to work and then come, come back and if I need to get another workout in or whatever, but spend some time with the kids and the way I've started to do it is take the kids into the room and work out with them.

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Yeah totally.

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They work out with me.

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So, like to help the situation but, like you know, it's like you've got to just put yourself first and just take care of it, otherwise it gets out of hand.

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I agree, like I was a single mom.

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My boys were three and five when I suddenly became a single mom and it was like, oh my gosh, and I owned businesses and I'm chasing world championship titles and it's like, how do you prioritize?

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That right but I realize, if I don't take care of myself first, especially mentally, you've got to have that yeah that time to check out and do something for you.

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Yeah, then you can take on the world and you can handle it.

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Otherwise it's like that resentment and you're just like everything feels so heavy.

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And even if it's 30 minutes a day, yeah, it does wonders.

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It does it does.

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And like I, I noticed that like I went to ireland and I had tough time with like jet lag and getting back and I had before I went there I worked out pretty hard and then like all of a sudden I'm like you know was so busy.

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As soon as I came back I was like no, I gotta like get in there and just take the time and do it like and you know, there's just like I got a small amount of time to get things done because the kids are gonna go to sleep or the kids are gonna wake up, so you gotta just get things done, don't you just going to go to sleep, or the kids are going to wake up, so you got to just get things done.

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Don't you just wish we could have clones already?

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I know.

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Yeah.

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One day, at least one, to sleep the humanoid robots are coming.

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Exactly Right.

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We got to be careful, he can.

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He can lift the weights for me yeah, totally there you go no.

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Oh, one thing I was going to ask.

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A lot of people underestimate how much that prenatal period is important with postnatal care.

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So I'm sure you get people both ways, like some that are planning to set themselves up so that after the child they're quick to bounce back and jump back into it, because if you have the habits built up already, and you just take like I don't know how long the break people take.

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I know my wife was working out pretty aggressively leading up to childbirth and I think she just took like three, four weeks off, yeah, um, and then like she bounced back very fast.

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So I think it's important the prenatal stuff although my wife didn't get into it.

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But I think she went through IVF and I think she got pretty big right away.

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She's got a small torso and I think, too many hormones and stuff.

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Well, yeah, that's a lot that process.

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It's also easy for us to sit here and talk about it and I think like too many hormones and stuff.

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Well, yeah, that's a lot.

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Yeah, that process.

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It's also easy for us to sit here and talk about it.

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But, like, like overall I think being pregnant and getting to the gym it helps with like I forget what it was, like I was actually thinking about it and, like you know, like having her like work out and stuff, especially like going if she wants to go through it again, you know, just so she can keep her musculature and stuff, so she doesn't lose it.

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And then, like you know, recovery and stuff.

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I think would be a lot better Having a good foundation is crucial, even just especially for women who are going through fertility treatments, because mentally the oh, it's horrible go through and I was one of those as well with my kids and it's like this constant emotional roller coaster.

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It's great to have that to kind of pour into as you're in the process yeah now not going extreme, because that's where some people are like I'm planning to have a baby, I need to get fit now because I'm going to gain weight not the right time or I just found out I'm pregnant.

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I can't get fat again.

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Not the right time so but having that good baseline of you know at least light lifting um some type of cardio or activity that you're doing and building that strong abdominal, that core, that abdominal wall is going to help, labor delivery, delivery, all of that.

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Yep, you'll push that kid right through the room.

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Yeah, just boom, boom rocket.

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So have you always been into fitness, or was this, like you know, when did you Not really?

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I was always an athlete growing up.

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I had two older brothers, but you know, back then it was you played any sport that your parents would let you hear.

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I grew up in Arizona YMCA.

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So it was like you're in a 12-week program, the next one.

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So soccer and I tried to play football Like I did anything, again being the little sister and the only girl I just wanted to be like them.

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And then you know, growing up I, I did sports through high school, college.

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I ended up um on the dance tier for su and um loved that.

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But then after that it was like, okay, now it's time to get in the real world yeah and so I started career, and that's where your fitness just kind of plummets yeah

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and I loved I'm ultra competitive.

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So I lost that element and ended up going into signing up for endurance events, you know, triathlons, sprint triathlons, marathons, loved that.

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But I'm like God, I thought people got fit with this and that was not the case.

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So then I just started going back to the gym and lifting weights.

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But I was one of those women who thought I don't want to be bulky and get so big with all these muscles.

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Obviously, total misconception, I didn't know.

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But I saw these women getting fit in the gym and you know just kind of slowly getting in shape, tight-toned bodies, like what are they doing?

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And actually ended up getting into this sport that I ended up, you know, kind of flourishing in and building a career out of, out of a dare.

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I just inquired like, why are they so fit?

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And they're like well, you couldn't do that.

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Yeah, I could.

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And from that moment on it was like well, then, do a competition.

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I'm like done.

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And.

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I'm like what did I just sign up for, you know?

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But that's what?

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Again, I think it was that competitive drive.

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I had no desire.

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I was like I got to get on stage in a bikini and let people judge me.

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I don't care what they think, you know.

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So it was totally this weird misconception.

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But if I say I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it, and so it's like you just find that way, block that fear.

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I'm like I got to figure out how to walk in a bikini and not act like I am scared to death.

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I need to get my body in shape.

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And then I actually did it, but then found out there was this division where there was the athletic component.

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I have no formal gymnastics training, nothing.

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But I was like that sounds like it's going to be really hard.

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So that's totally my thing.

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So that's how I got into it and it was just honestly.

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I had no desire to be pro, had never heard of the Olympia at that time and was like I just like having this, to have a focus and a goal.

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Yeah, and then had some life things happen, with my mom passing away with cancer and then a divorce and it was like I need something positive to pour my life into because, being a mom with two young boys, if I let life's catastrophes define me, I'm going to be one of these train wrecks that you see on TV.

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And I refuse to be that.

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So I need something positive, like I'm not going to get into drugs, I'm not going to be one of these train wrecks that you see on TV and I refuse to be that.

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So I need something positive, like I'm not going to get into drugs, I'm not going to start drinking, like I got to pour it into something.

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So it all kind of worked out, timing wise to say you know what, why don't I give this sport a little more effort and set some goals?

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And it was like, okay, I'm going to turn pro, I'm going to get my pro card, and then let's just see where it goes.

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And it was.

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It was a positive thing that, as an athlete, there's so many business applications for me that I learned in how you are as an athlete, with you know doing things that are difficult, taking on massive risks, having confidence when you show up on stage, just like you do in a boardroom, having to almost fake it till you make it in instance.

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There's so many applications as a top athlete that helped me build all my different businesses.

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And so then it's like, okay, this is great, because what I'm learning here as an athlete helps business and what I'm learning as business helps me as an athlete.

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Yeah.

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And I just kept going and for 15 years this was my thing of building businesses and being an athlete.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And we, we always take it back to our wrestling days because, like the days in the trenches, with wrestling it's like nothing else.

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You're like in med school, like you know you could quit.

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Or you're like in med school, like you know you could quit.

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Or you're like no, six minutes on the mat I got six minutes and just do it yes and like you're, like you know one more round.

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Much you put in, the main thing from wrestling I took away is like whether I did good or bad, or just like I knew what I put in and that's what I got out.

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So and that's what the same thing with our sport Like.

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It's a subjective sport.

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I go do the most bad-ass routine and the judges would be like, nah, not very impressed, yeah.

00:17:31.700 --> 00:17:35.366
But I knew at the end of the day I got to judge.

00:17:35.366 --> 00:17:43.202
So every competition before I I walked up those platform steps, before I ever hit the stage I did my own judgment of did I win or lose?

00:17:43.202 --> 00:17:44.944
Yeah, before I ever hit the stage I did my own judgment of did I win or lose?

00:17:44.964 --> 00:17:49.830
Yeah, and I didn't always win, and there were some times I had to step out on that stage going I didn't give it everything.

00:17:49.830 --> 00:17:56.839
I didn't practice, I cheated on my diet, I gave up on certain routine practice, whatever it was it's on us yeah.

00:17:57.461 --> 00:18:00.570
And again, there's times I gave it my all and I didn't win.

00:18:00.570 --> 00:18:06.885
But I was was like these judges aren't going to define my value.

00:18:06.885 --> 00:18:08.250
I know I won, yeah, and that's what it comes down to.

00:18:08.250 --> 00:18:10.419
Discipline it comes down to hard work, showing up and doing what.

00:18:10.419 --> 00:18:12.282
What you need to do when no one's watching?

00:18:12.282 --> 00:18:26.153
Yeah, and that's what helps us as human beings, um, in our line of work, whatever that is is just doing the hard stuff when there's no prize, yeah, at the end of the day, day in and day out.

00:18:26.335 --> 00:18:43.082
Yeah, and like vision quests I always talk about our vision quests that you know our coach would lay us down and just walk you through your moves to win the state championships, and like you'd go through it over and over again and like surgery is kind of very similar.

00:18:43.082 --> 00:18:51.169
You know, you're like you kind of pre-plan everything, look at the pictures the night before, the day before and go through all your steps, you know.

00:18:51.169 --> 00:18:56.633
And I kind of got into plastics, kind of the same reason you got into the fitness thing.

00:18:56.633 --> 00:18:58.775
People told me I couldn't do plastic surgery.

00:18:58.775 --> 00:19:00.175
So I was like, oh all right.

00:19:00.516 --> 00:19:01.777
You're like really Try me.

00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:10.153
Yeah, so I just put my head down and continued going and it was like every step of the way everyone told me I couldn't do it, so, like.

00:19:10.153 --> 00:19:20.486
But now you know, I've been in practice for 10 years, so and people chuckle in like third and fourth year like okay, right out of the caribbean med school.

00:19:20.506 --> 00:19:24.682
You're gonna go become a plastic surgeon I still remember that I'm like we'll see.

00:19:24.682 --> 00:19:30.602
I know, I know I got a shot at it and I know you don't, because it lights a fire, like when there's that doubt.

00:19:30.702 --> 00:19:49.403
If you have that discipline and the your self-confidence, all you need is a little bit of doubt to be like, oh, it's on yeah, it's on yeah, because even like my, my last year of wrestling, like I'd go into tournaments, like and it was bad because I'd I'd like drink and be hung over.

00:19:49.403 --> 00:20:02.406
Um, I don't drink anymore right now, but like I'd be hung over and I'd go and like one of these big tournaments no way, and I used to be like 200 pounds, wrestling heavyweight, like people up to 275.

00:20:02.847 --> 00:20:08.761
They'd be like these muscular, huge guys and I'd be like I'd go on there and I didn't give a shit.

00:20:08.761 --> 00:20:25.270
And that's like I think being hung over kind of gave me this like mind of like not even caring, yeah, like, like, oh, they're, they're some top guy in the region or whatever, and I'd go and like be like all right, oh, I'd win, and it's like you know.

00:20:25.270 --> 00:20:38.022
It's like now, looking back at it, you know that's like where you build your confidence and you just push yourself a little more than the next guy and that's all it takes you know you did mention when you you stopped competing.

00:20:38.063 --> 00:20:43.169
You just like something's off because I wasn't the best wrestler.

00:20:43.169 --> 00:20:53.617
But I just remember when I was done in college, like after college, I was just like it took me a few years to like just stop thinking about it.

00:20:53.939 --> 00:20:54.180
Really.

00:20:54.279 --> 00:21:07.461
It was like because I was like I can't like MMA was just taken off, but like I knew I wasn't going to go into MMA, so I'm like how am I going to like compete again?

00:21:07.461 --> 00:21:10.567
I'm like uh, you have some regrets.

00:21:11.009 --> 00:21:16.326
well, it's true as an athlete, especially if you did it at a collegiate level and a very competitive level.

00:21:16.326 --> 00:21:27.008
Yeah, and same thing with our sport you have to almost have something on the back burner that you can transition to or pour it into because otherwise you're just kind of lost.

00:21:27.008 --> 00:21:27.990
Um, and it does.

00:21:27.990 --> 00:21:30.122
It does happen for a lot of people now.

00:21:30.122 --> 00:21:33.944
If you can pour it into a career or family or some other hobby, great.

00:21:34.085 --> 00:21:35.688
But at a young age.

00:21:35.688 --> 00:21:37.692
It's tough, it's like figuring it out.

00:21:37.712 --> 00:21:40.767
Yeah, you know yeah, you're like, do I have to have a plan b?

00:21:40.826 --> 00:21:57.547
nah, but then you realize, oh wait, it would help yeah, because I, I think I thought about xfl or mma, because I played college football and like I got into the Caribbean med school and I was like, oh, I guess I'll go there, which was the wise choice.

00:21:57.547 --> 00:22:00.502
But like, yeah, we did.

00:22:00.502 --> 00:22:05.586
Like no holds bar fighting at the bars when, like UFC was just no way yeah.

00:22:05.586 --> 00:22:07.445
He'd sign me up and I'd get it.

00:22:07.606 --> 00:22:12.189
Oh, how fun we were just talking about this because we both do jiu-jitsu.

00:22:12.189 --> 00:22:13.092
I love it.

00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:14.785
I would love to do jiu-jitsu.

00:22:15.146 --> 00:22:18.596
If I was younger, I'm afraid I would be trying to be a UFC fighter.

00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:20.626
Yeah, I'm trying to get my kids.

00:22:20.626 --> 00:22:32.573
Like I know, my younger son, who's 18 months, will totally like flourish and love it, because he already tries to wrestle my older son oh, that's hilarious more studious guy.

00:22:32.573 --> 00:22:38.109
He could care less and I've taken him to jujitsu and he never wants to get on the mat.

00:22:38.109 --> 00:22:44.210
But I, you know I and I don't want to push him too much at the younger age sure, sure more.

00:22:44.230 --> 00:22:50.941
I think once he's more like five and older, I think I'll probably try to get him in yeah, a lot of my teammates have done it as well.

00:22:50.961 --> 00:22:51.644
You got to try it out?

00:22:51.644 --> 00:22:59.414
I'm like, yeah, but I've taken care of people with broken fingers and stuff and yeah if I do that, he's like no, you just got to go with the right gym.

00:22:59.414 --> 00:23:04.328
I'm like I know, but if I just put my hand down wrong and my finger gets dislocated.

00:23:04.449 --> 00:23:06.252
I can't take like six weeks off.

00:23:06.252 --> 00:23:10.730
That's what we were talking about, because you have to be smart now, like younger.

00:23:10.730 --> 00:23:17.642
Like I said, if I was younger I would do it, but now there's a lot more on the line, a lot more to lose, a lot of injuries in the background.

00:23:17.721 --> 00:23:26.028
I was doing crossfit when I first started my practice oh, wow I did it for three years in new york and I just like fell in love with it.

00:23:26.028 --> 00:23:32.528
But like I'm ultra competitive, like I had skin peeling off my hands and it gets super glue and your arms.

00:23:32.568 --> 00:23:35.413
Just look at you like I still got one, yeah, exactly.

00:23:38.539 --> 00:24:16.950
And and like I came here in New York, at least like I'd go to the 9.00 PM class and like they'd walk us through stuff, even though like some days were more competitive over here, I'm like trying to like, and the coaches weren't really like like well-trained, so they just like push you, and I know I can lift a lot of weight, because I've always like had this thing like lifting heavy weights and like if they push me, I'm going to do it and I'm like I'm almost 40, and I'm like trying to you know, compete, know, compete with these like kids out of college, and I'm like you know, I have to take days back and I'd be like what am I really doing?

00:24:17.029 --> 00:24:27.847
it's a reality yeah, and once my wrist started hurting, I'm like, okay, this is like I gotta operate, and I stopped doing CrossFit oh gosh, yeah, especially being in the medical field.

00:24:27.907 --> 00:24:37.657
You see, all that I have never done CrossFit now I still, to this day, I'm like I'm going to do it, but all my friends coaches that you can never do it.

00:24:37.698 --> 00:24:39.162
No, you'll tear up your shoulders.

00:24:39.241 --> 00:25:12.145
Yeah, they're like you've got too much going on already and you will just go not realize it because you have that adrenaline, that competitive it's like oh yeah, yeah, it's not good for competitive people oh no, because my wife you know, like I, I slow down for a little while, but then it's like you know, there's that tick that hits you and you're like, you know, like the crossfit games would come and I'm like, no, I gotta be like that guy totally all of a sudden, you're back on the wrong side again, you know.

00:25:12.145 --> 00:25:17.652
So, overall, like do you have a daily routine that you do or I?

00:25:17.731 --> 00:25:18.373
do so.

00:25:18.373 --> 00:25:21.255
I'm not competing anymore, but I'm still.

00:25:21.255 --> 00:25:22.936
It's just a normal lifestyle.

00:25:22.936 --> 00:25:30.855
So for me, every morning I get up I have some heart issues, so it's almost like I equate it to like you start a lawnmower every day.

00:25:31.259 --> 00:25:32.064
That's me so got to get my heart issues.

00:25:32.064 --> 00:25:33.509
So it's almost like I equate it to like you start a lawnmower every day.

00:25:33.509 --> 00:25:33.730
That's me.

00:25:33.730 --> 00:25:34.314
So got to get my heart going.

00:25:34.314 --> 00:25:40.896
So I just get up, literally roll downstairs, get on my treadmill for at least half an hour and, you know, pretty active like 3.8.

00:25:40.896 --> 00:25:53.761
So walking, getting it going, do some daily meditation, just getting myself set up for the day, and then I always will work out about midday or in the afternoon so I get myself going.

00:25:53.761 --> 00:25:54.483
Better I have.

00:25:54.723 --> 00:26:02.773
I broke my neck about six years ago so I have some issues, nerve with my right arm, so it takes about an hour or so to wake up every morning with my right arm.

00:26:02.773 --> 00:26:09.151
So I'm I would love to be a morning workout person, just to get it out of the way and then start the day.

00:26:09.151 --> 00:26:11.484
Yeah, it will never be my lifestyle now, so I just build it in, you know, with a lot of the way and then start the day.

00:26:11.484 --> 00:26:13.125
It will never be my lifestyle now, so I just build it in.

00:26:13.125 --> 00:26:22.684
You know, with a lot of the work I have going on, sometimes it does get pushed aside, but yet I constantly will live in the philosophy of you don't have to go to the gym.

00:26:22.684 --> 00:26:24.086
There's so much you can do.

00:26:24.086 --> 00:26:27.547
I don't care where you're at, you can think of a workout.

00:26:31.539 --> 00:26:33.964
Now if you're a massive bodybuilder and you're, you know, benching 40 pounds.

00:26:33.964 --> 00:26:40.689
That might be tough, but that's definitely not me, it's not 99 of the world so it's just a matter of cut the excuses and do something.

00:26:40.709 --> 00:26:45.928
Whether it's half an hour just getting my heart moving upper body, lower body doesn't matter.

00:26:45.928 --> 00:26:47.070
Do a quick circuit.

00:26:47.070 --> 00:26:52.728
So it is definitely part of my everyday lifestyle and I need it more mentally.

00:26:52.728 --> 00:27:00.243
I find when I'm really stressed out I'll look back, I'm like, oh my gosh, I missed my workout yesterday and didn't do anything today.

00:27:00.243 --> 00:27:12.700
So it's like, naturally my body craves it and that's one of the best benefits for people who you know, we all have been active, we're athletes, so telling us to work out is not hard.

00:27:12.819 --> 00:27:19.885
But there are a lot of people that is just like, yeah, they would rather get stabbed in the eye and it's like, no, you really got to work out.

00:27:19.885 --> 00:27:26.804
So how do you get them to adopt this lifestyle before they are forced to do it?

00:27:26.804 --> 00:27:28.365
And that's where it's tough.

00:27:28.365 --> 00:27:33.894
And so you know, a lot of times you take it back to like old school PE what did you like to do?

00:27:33.894 --> 00:27:39.184
You know, if you have kids, go to the park and run around with them, create an obstacle course.

00:27:39.184 --> 00:27:47.711
So a lot of times it's overcoming that to get you going and for me to all get in ruts where it's like I do not want to go to the gym.

00:27:47.730 --> 00:27:48.132
Yeah, yeah.

00:27:52.019 --> 00:27:53.943
Personally for me, like I like to do back flips, I like to do crazy break dance stuff.

00:27:53.943 --> 00:27:55.867
Like I don't love to lift anymore.

00:27:55.867 --> 00:27:57.971
The gym is boring, yeah.

00:27:57.971 --> 00:28:09.969
So I like to find little crazy antics where I'm lifting and doing plyometric push-ups and then throwing in some toe touches, back tuck and some b-boy swipes or something ridiculous.

00:28:09.969 --> 00:28:14.005
Like if you see me at a gym, I'm that weird girl, you're like what is wrong with her?

00:28:14.005 --> 00:28:25.040
But that's the way it keeps me interested and it's just finding like, if you are an active person and you're getting bored with it, yeah, think back like a child.

00:28:25.040 --> 00:28:26.784
Yeah, what is it you want to do?

00:28:26.943 --> 00:28:48.509
that seems fun and do it yeah as long as you're active, so it's a huge part of my lifestyle, no question yeah, one of the things that really got me back into and then I, you know, we do a lot of weight loss and peptides and stuff in our clinic and one of the things was and I got my brothers into it too which like resistance bands, it was like so simple, injury free.

00:28:48.509 --> 00:28:51.480
And it was like so simple, injury free.

00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:54.942
And it was like 10, 15 minutes every day, you know.

00:28:55.263 --> 00:29:07.411
I bought like two different systems and, like when I got bored with it, I have like a tonal at home, so I try to like mix it up between the different things.

00:29:07.490 --> 00:29:07.791
Totally.

00:29:07.900 --> 00:29:09.406
And I've always loved lifting.

00:29:09.406 --> 00:29:29.388
The only problem is, like the aches and pains of lifting yeah which that I don't get with resistance bands and like I think I I got in the best shape with resistance bands and building muscle, even being on glp ones and stuff, but like I always feel like I get bored and I'm like I could do more and grow more.

00:29:29.388 --> 00:29:36.592
Although the resistance bands are probably better, I like start doing tonal and doing other stuff to kind of build it.

00:29:36.961 --> 00:29:40.759
I've gone back into the gym like two to three days a week, usually on the weekend sessions.

00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:52.827
I'll go to the gym and do the resistance bands in the morning during the week, because you got to sneak it in before like getting to work for like seven and I've always done this.

00:29:52.827 --> 00:29:54.512
It's I don't know why.

00:29:54.512 --> 00:30:01.907
I'm just like yeah, a little more weight on, put a little more weight on until you're just like like damn it, like you know what?

00:30:02.068 --> 00:30:02.589
I'll tell you.

00:30:02.589 --> 00:30:06.942
What, though, the people do not put as much value in resistance bands?

00:30:07.082 --> 00:30:14.904
as they should and covid was one of the craziest things because at that time I was coaching a lot of athletes who compete on stage.

00:30:14.904 --> 00:30:17.612
Now everything was shut down but they still had.

00:30:17.612 --> 00:30:27.211
You know, no one knew it was going to be shut down as long as it did, but I had several clients in prep for shows it's like we can't go to the gym and then also lifestyle clients.

00:30:27.211 --> 00:30:29.743
They couldn't go to the gym get resistance fans.

00:30:29.743 --> 00:30:39.431
Yeah, what was interesting is people found out they worked way more efficiently with the resistance bands at home than going to the gym because it wasn't social time.

00:30:39.451 --> 00:30:39.590
Yeah.

00:30:40.181 --> 00:30:47.865
And then the athletes, the bodies on stage, because it was a different type of training and it was time under tension, it was different style.

00:30:47.865 --> 00:30:52.410
It was crazy how well the bodies looked with no gym.

00:30:52.651 --> 00:31:03.826
really, you know, I kept on reading about it, reading about it, but what got me was like an anesthesiologist that we like talk about wellness all the time and she's like.

00:31:03.826 --> 00:31:06.560
She's like showing me her thighs and she's like.

00:31:06.560 --> 00:31:10.709
She's like I'm 70 and look at these, this is just x3 bar.

00:31:10.709 --> 00:31:12.532
I'm like you're freaking solid.

00:31:12.532 --> 00:31:13.540
I'm like it's.

00:31:13.540 --> 00:31:17.730
She's like this is the best shape I've been in and like and she does triathlon.

00:31:17.832 --> 00:31:18.780
Yeah, that's awesome.

00:31:18.820 --> 00:31:29.509
Yeah, and she's like you know how cut up she got and like I think it was on like tony robbins book I, I forget what's it life force, um he on that.

00:31:29.509 --> 00:31:34.266
He said his wife got in the best shape she's ever been on the resistance band.

00:31:34.266 --> 00:31:38.228
So she got him on it and I was like all right, I got to buy him.

00:31:38.228 --> 00:31:40.628
I bought like the Harambe system.

00:31:40.628 --> 00:31:45.991
I had like an Amazon thing before but those didn't really work.

00:31:45.991 --> 00:31:49.050
But like if you get quality resistance bands like Harambe system or X3.

00:31:49.070 --> 00:31:51.279
Like, if you get quality resistant the ones that often smack you in the head X3.

00:31:52.580 --> 00:32:03.808
Yeah, I was like you know, like I was taking GLP-1s and people were talking about losing muscle and I have the InBody which tells you how much and I was gaining muscle while losing weight.

00:32:03.808 --> 00:32:12.188
So it's and the definition you get, the muscle growth you get, is incredible and like I don't think it's pretty fast.

00:32:12.209 --> 00:32:20.240
Yeah, well, it's amazing too, because guys are in my experience are less likely to be like yeah, I'm not doing resistance.

00:32:20.661 --> 00:32:23.847
Women are more apt to it yeah, because they will do workouts at home.

00:32:23.847 --> 00:32:25.392
Yeah, but guys, it's.

00:32:25.392 --> 00:32:27.163
It's sometimes a selling proposition.

00:32:27.163 --> 00:32:29.853
But since it's not normal for most guys, because girls will go to the gym and do bands, yeah, your guys, bodies respond faster.

00:32:29.853 --> 00:32:46.023
Because it's not normal for most guys, because girls will go to the gym and do bands, yeah, your guys, bodies respond faster because it's something totally foreign and you don't hurt your joints like like no shoulder pain like doing the chest stuff and the you know triceps, like no shoulder pain at all.

00:32:46.144 --> 00:32:56.096
You know, it's like it was just amazing yeah, yeah, a safer way because, again, at the end of the day, we need to be able to wake up tomorrow and do our job, whatever that is without being injured?

00:32:56.115 --> 00:32:57.826
Yeah, exactly, or just being in pain.

00:32:57.826 --> 00:33:00.578
Sure, it's going to be so much better than being in pain.

00:33:01.742 --> 00:33:04.770
And the amount your core builds too.

00:33:04.770 --> 00:33:13.193
I was like we're not doing any ab workouts, but your abs get tighter with just doing the core exercise.

00:33:13.193 --> 00:33:14.075
Yeah, the stabilization.

00:33:15.201 --> 00:33:16.766
Which, think about it as you get older.

00:33:16.766 --> 00:33:18.451
That's the most important.

00:33:18.921 --> 00:33:19.564
Your balance.

00:33:19.604 --> 00:33:20.667
You're stepping off a curb.

00:33:20.667 --> 00:33:22.243
I mean, you guys see how many people fall.

00:33:22.243 --> 00:33:22.987
They break their hip.

00:33:22.987 --> 00:33:24.510
It's like what?

00:33:24.510 --> 00:33:26.748
There's no core strength.

00:33:26.748 --> 00:33:30.770
So as we get older it's working out smarter, not harder.

00:33:30.770 --> 00:33:36.750
But you go back to a gym even after doing resistance bands, and I'm sure you guys load up the bar and you just get after it.

00:33:36.750 --> 00:33:40.125
You're like whoa yeah because it's just natural in a gym.

00:33:40.125 --> 00:33:47.510
You go way too heavy, lift way too much, yeah, you're back into square, yeah one thing I started doing with the weights.

00:33:48.212 --> 00:33:51.077
I won't use a bar, so it's all dumbbell and everything's separate.

00:33:51.077 --> 00:33:52.144
Because I felt like a bar, so it's all dumbbell and everything separate.

00:33:52.144 --> 00:33:54.692
Cause I felt like a bar, like on a bench press.

00:33:54.692 --> 00:33:59.670
That was kind of irritating it and I'm like, ah, but I want to see how much I can lift.

00:33:59.670 --> 00:34:01.267
But I'm like I just switched to dumbbells.

00:34:01.267 --> 00:34:06.365
I don't do any bar work that way it gives it the free range of motion rather than forcing the shoulder.

00:34:06.365 --> 00:34:07.229
Sure, yeah.

00:34:07.961 --> 00:34:09.284
I don't do any free weights.

00:34:09.284 --> 00:34:11.048
I've stopped doing free weights.

00:34:11.048 --> 00:34:12.231
I have everything at home.

00:34:12.231 --> 00:34:17.391
It's tough for me to go back to it because my shoulders would totally get ruined.

00:34:17.452 --> 00:34:17.693
Right.

00:34:17.820 --> 00:34:21.043
And I'm afraid I'm going to tear a pec or something I'm like.

00:34:21.123 --> 00:34:22.596
all right, let me stay away from it.

00:34:22.596 --> 00:34:23.039
Not worth it, yeah.

00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:26.867
No, I'm like my tonal and my resistance bands.

00:34:26.867 --> 00:34:29.052
They do enough.

00:34:29.532 --> 00:34:30.034
Oh heck yeah.

00:34:33.659 --> 00:34:35.123
Those are good ones two x3 and tonal heck, yeah, yeah.

00:34:35.123 --> 00:34:35.505
So tonal is cool.

00:34:35.505 --> 00:34:36.686
I don't have room for one.

00:34:36.728 --> 00:34:40.282
You always got room for a tonal that's like the least footprint.

00:34:40.382 --> 00:34:41.284
I know, I know.

00:34:41.364 --> 00:34:44.112
But it's like if you have room for a laptop.

00:34:44.152 --> 00:34:47.382
You have room for a tone the, the.

00:34:47.722 --> 00:34:48.063
what's it?

00:34:48.063 --> 00:34:51.525
The wall wall, it's like wood frame.

00:34:51.525 --> 00:34:59.152
So it's like, after we put it up, we were both like Sarah likes it too, Like the tonal.

00:34:59.172 --> 00:35:08.280
I won the competitors for tonal and she's like, oh, this would be the perfect spot for it, so we just put that up, but like I'm putting one in our new office, so like there you go.

00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:09.324
It's getting to work out too.

00:35:09.699 --> 00:35:12.760
No excuse now no, that was like when I heard about it.

00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.228
Like it's pines said this is where the tonal will go.

00:35:16.228 --> 00:35:20.405
I'm like, wait, you're getting it for the patients, no, for you guys.

00:35:20.445 --> 00:35:31.384
I was like, oh, that's awesome, my office because we're like we do all the biohacking stuff too, so it's like other than the cold and I don't really I don't know what are your thoughts on like cold plunge.

00:35:31.384 --> 00:35:34.231
Do you do do cold plunges and biohacking stuff?

00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:43.389
So it's funny because obviously there's so much research and I've been doing cold plunge gosh for years, way back before they actually had these amazing.

00:35:43.389 --> 00:35:58.969
I have a cold plunge at my house now, but I would go every day, especially when I was in prep, Because I would be doing four hours of routine practice where it's like you're doing these six foot off the ground push up, flies you land.

00:35:58.989 --> 00:36:00.012
and then your body, face planning, beating myself up.

00:36:00.012 --> 00:36:07.014
So I would walk out of practice like, just like a truck ran over me On my way home, I would grab seven bags of like those huge ice.

00:36:07.295 --> 00:36:10.565
McDonald's ice and I would do it in my bathtub at home every night.

00:36:10.565 --> 00:36:21.668
So I've been doing it forever as a sense of recovery and to get rid of the inflammation, because I would just start, within hours, my joints, everything's swollen.

00:36:21.668 --> 00:36:23.655
Yeah, I did it for that purpose.

00:36:23.655 --> 00:36:28.284
Now then obviously the studies come out and they're like don't do it after you work out, do, do do it before.

00:36:28.284 --> 00:36:33.210
Truthfully, I have found for me personally it does.

00:36:33.210 --> 00:36:36.835
When I'm doing it regularly, I can eat a lot more.

00:36:36.835 --> 00:36:40.130
It does have an impact, a positive impact, on my metabolism.

00:36:40.260 --> 00:36:40.380
Now.

00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:58.440
I've always, and only, done it post-workout, so I've never been one to do it before, and I don't do it in the morning because my heart rate and all that stuff is so low that my doctor's like don't be an idiot.

00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:05.702
So I've only ever done it post-workout, and, um, I will tell you, though, that it was the one thing that truly benefits, cause I take any type of like supplements for joint health.

00:37:05.702 --> 00:37:08.608
I do body work three times a week when I'm in prep.

00:37:08.608 --> 00:37:14.322
Um, I do all of the you know work three times a week when I'm in prep.

00:37:14.322 --> 00:37:17.768
I do all of the you know rehab with the foam rolling pre post, but that was the one thing that I will say.

00:37:17.768 --> 00:37:22.304
I would get out of that cold plunge, and I'm like All right, let's go again.

00:37:22.304 --> 00:37:26.918
Yeah, it would single handedly change the way I felt.

00:37:26.918 --> 00:37:33.052
I could wake up less achy, so that, for me, was a game changer as an athlete in my prep.

00:37:33.052 --> 00:37:36.126
That's the one thing I could say 100%, I could not go.

00:37:36.186 --> 00:37:37.509
How long do you sit in there for?

00:37:39.373 --> 00:37:41.041
I would do 12 minutes at 35.

00:37:41.041 --> 00:37:47.523
Wow, to the point where, like my ice bath, you got to get the ice pick and then you get in, like under the Titanic, and it's here.

00:37:47.523 --> 00:37:56.992
I never went under, though, um, and I never would go above my heart cause I would have some heart issues with it, and so it would always be like here down.

00:37:57.916 --> 00:37:59.099
But that's pretty cold.

00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:04.931
Yeah, it is cold, but honestly I loved it because to me it was like a mental challenge.

00:38:04.931 --> 00:38:16.405
I would do like mind games, like little riddles, like whatever it was to distract, but for me it was a form of like creating and building your mental toughness.

00:38:16.405 --> 00:38:19.831
How strong of a mindset can I build?

00:38:19.831 --> 00:38:24.978
So you know, when it's freezing outside, arizona doesn't get that cold, but to me it's freezing.

00:38:25.018 --> 00:38:25.719
Yeah, oh yeah.

00:38:26.181 --> 00:38:39.311
It's easier to do a cold plunge in this weather 100 degrees but when it's winter and mine was outside my garage, that's miserable and sometimes it would take me an hour to like get back to body temperature.

00:38:39.311 --> 00:38:42.108
Mentally, how do you psych yourself up for that?

00:38:42.108 --> 00:38:43.684
When your body is beat to hell?

00:38:43.684 --> 00:38:50.219
You're tired, you just want to go to sleep, but you're like I got to do this and I loved that challenge.

00:38:50.219 --> 00:38:52.288
So I would never do it above 38.

00:38:52.288 --> 00:39:00.003
It had to be 35 to 38 always, and I would never do it less than 10 minutes because it's like then why am I tapping out early?

00:39:00.003 --> 00:39:06.021
So to me it was that consistency to show up, do the hard work, challenge yourself.

00:39:06.021 --> 00:39:10.550
This is only making your grits better and stronger and your resilience.

00:39:10.550 --> 00:39:13.054
So I love the mental side of it.

00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:18.052
Yeah, I think the mental side of it's the biggest thing for a lot of people.

00:39:18.340 --> 00:39:27.070
I think, it's like you know, especially when we wake up and talking yourself into that it just builds some resilience with you know, mental toughness.

00:39:27.510 --> 00:39:27.811
Totally.

00:39:27.811 --> 00:39:30.429
I mean there's and people do it for a variety of reasons.

00:39:30.429 --> 00:39:38.740
If it works for you, whatever that is just for clarity for the day, for speeding up your metabolism to get rid of inflammation.

00:39:38.740 --> 00:39:39.362
Who cares?

00:39:39.362 --> 00:39:44.722
If it works great, if you do it at 50 degrees and it's like that's so cool, who cares?

00:39:44.722 --> 00:39:47.550
Yeah, like, just do it if there's a payoff.

00:39:47.550 --> 00:39:48.715
I've done cryo.

00:39:48.715 --> 00:39:51.927
To me that's the biggest waste of time oh yeah, yeah it is.

00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:53.338
That's what I've heard from a couple of people.

00:39:53.338 --> 00:39:57.751
I just like looked at it because, yeah, I looked at the machine itself.

00:39:57.751 --> 00:40:03.708
I'm like it just didn't make any sense, like the cold plunge, like totally different feeling.

00:40:03.829 --> 00:40:10.168
Yeah, yeah, and some people love the cryo machines, but that's fine, but not the cryo machines, but that's fine, but not again.

00:40:10.168 --> 00:40:10.909
It's kind of for you, yeah.

00:40:10.929 --> 00:40:11.971
And you kind of look at it.

00:40:12.110 --> 00:40:32.262
You know like I compare it to like, although, like infrared sauna compared to a regular sauna is a lot different than the eye cryo thing but it works similar where, um, you know you're not going to get the heart benefits from infrared because it never gets as hot as the other normal saunas.

00:40:32.262 --> 00:40:41.639
It's going to beam through your muscles and help with the repair and stuff like that, when that iCryo kind of works the same way.

00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:47.077
It's going to just, but it's going to be more superficial, it's not going to affect your core body temperature.

00:40:47.157 --> 00:40:47.378
Right.

00:40:47.449 --> 00:41:01.369
And get all the added benefits of your core body temperature sure so that that's where the difference is, and people feel miserable for the three minutes that they do the freezing and does it help, like if you have minor injuries?

00:41:01.369 --> 00:41:03.034
But you got to be pretty consistent.

00:41:03.034 --> 00:41:04.376
Is it worth it?

00:41:04.376 --> 00:41:08.891
I, I think if you're going to do anything, do the cold plunge over the cryo machines.

00:41:09.510 --> 00:41:12.851
And I think too, anyone that's actually done the really cold, cold plunge.

00:41:12.851 --> 00:41:14.452
They're like yeah, I don't.

00:41:14.452 --> 00:41:18.773
It's hard to go back to cryo and feel that same benefit.

00:41:18.773 --> 00:41:19.954
So again to me.

00:41:19.954 --> 00:41:21.695
Again if it works for people, great.

00:41:21.695 --> 00:41:24.016
For me it was like it was a waste of three minutes.

00:41:24.556 --> 00:41:30.838
Yeah, no, I think like, and those are probably going to go to the waist.

00:41:30.838 --> 00:41:34.358
As you know, more and more people just pick up on cold plunge.

00:41:34.358 --> 00:41:36.079
It's so much easier and better for you.

00:41:36.338 --> 00:41:37.800
I think so too actually.

00:41:38.219 --> 00:41:39.601
Did a cold plunge for six minutes.

00:41:39.601 --> 00:41:44.041
I don't cold plunge much, but I got membership at the gym for it.

00:41:44.081 --> 00:41:45.481
Oh, did you yeah.

00:41:45.541 --> 00:41:46.163
I'll jump in.

00:41:46.163 --> 00:41:59.626
Jumped in like three minutes the first time and I think it was set like to 33 to 35, like the range you were saying and then the second time I went in for like six minutes, the guy came in next to me.

00:41:59.666 --> 00:42:03.007
He's like how long do you usually do it for?

00:42:03.007 --> 00:42:04.329
I'm like it's only my second time.

00:42:04.329 --> 00:42:07.030
He's like well, how long I'm like six minutes.

00:42:07.030 --> 00:42:09.215
And he was just like what the hell he's like oh, how long am I?

00:42:09.215 --> 00:42:09.476
Six minutes.

00:42:09.476 --> 00:42:10.498
And he was just like what the hell he's like?

00:42:10.498 --> 00:42:11.318
I've been doing this for a year.

00:42:11.318 --> 00:42:17.818
He's like and these are like some of the coldest cold plunges I've been in oh wow, he's like I didn't know you should go for more than five minutes.

00:42:17.949 --> 00:42:21.119
I was like, honestly, I didn't look up the exact numbers.

00:42:24.976 --> 00:42:26.358
And I'm like this can.

00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:29.925
Even three to five minutes is it's the benefits should be there.

00:42:30.050 --> 00:42:34.298
When I've had people say you do it too long and I'm like maybe so, but again.

00:42:34.610 --> 00:42:38.481
But you're doing it for you know, like healing your joints and muscles and stuff.

00:42:38.501 --> 00:42:42.820
So and I got out of there and I was like it was funny because I wasn't used to it.

00:42:42.820 --> 00:42:49.195
But like your whole like skin is numb and waking up, like when you ice an area, it was like that.

00:42:49.195 --> 00:42:50.717
I'm like oh my God, what is?

00:42:50.996 --> 00:42:51.297
this.

00:42:51.297 --> 00:43:02.327
Yeah, I haven't gotten one because, like I think my wife would kill me, I already have too many things in our bedroom in our master bathroom Got like a sauna.

00:43:02.327 --> 00:43:10.318
I got all this like gym equipment and like I think she'd kill me if I had the cold plunge.

00:43:10.318 --> 00:43:12.000
I just do it during the wintertime.

00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:13.922
I just jump in my pool when it gets cold.

00:43:13.922 --> 00:43:16.456
Yeah for sure, I mean, that's an easy go-to.

00:43:17.349 --> 00:43:18.637
Do you know recently.

00:43:18.637 --> 00:43:28.315
So I lead this youth entrepreneurship program here in Arizona and we had an event two weeks ago and it was 46 young adults age 18 to 24.

00:43:28.315 --> 00:43:32.744
And so we had um optimized come out and do cold plunges.

00:43:32.744 --> 00:43:35.195
Over half of them had never done a cold plunge.

00:43:35.195 --> 00:43:39.954
So for someone who's never done it, you know, first of all it's like you're kind of put on the spot.

00:43:39.954 --> 00:43:50.090
Shockingly everyone did it, even though the ones who were totally scared it was 35 degrees and they're also younger and they have to, you know, get into a swimsuit.

00:43:50.090 --> 00:43:51.516
So there's all these variables.

00:43:51.675 --> 00:44:10.784
But to your point of why people do it, it was that mental challenge to be like don't give up and it was so impressive to see several of these individuals who were like scared to death and terrified, but just having that support and you're not gonna die from it but you know like.

00:44:10.784 --> 00:44:12.036
That's where people like I don't want to do.

00:44:12.056 --> 00:44:15.672
It's uncomfortable yeah, it's like get comfortable being uncomfortable.00:44:15.672 --> 00:44:25.420


It's the first step to really leveling up, yeah, and so I always will encourage people to try it, whether you start at 50 degrees or whatever getting out of it.00:44:25.420 --> 00:44:33.987


I don't know of anyone who's like that was the best thing ever, because it's miserable, right, no one likes to be that cold the first 10 minutes, but benefit.00:44:34.027 --> 00:44:39.141


Yeah, during the day you're like holy shit, I feel a lot better, like you know, like super energy.00:44:40.052 --> 00:44:41.114


A couple times I've done.00:44:41.114 --> 00:44:57.996


I'm like ready to go, and that was at after a work day totally and it's like that sense of accomplishment you just did something hard yeah so, for people who ever hesitate, dare yourself to do something that makes you so uncomfortable, because the benefit you'll get from it yeah00:44:58.356 --> 00:45:13.675


will be pretty eye-opening and it was awesome to see all these young adults being like, wow, it's like light bulb went off I, and I think one of the big things to show is like you know, know how you talk yourself, because Rogan always talks about it too.00:45:13.675 --> 00:45:17.123


He's like I have to like get my inner bitch out.00:45:17.123 --> 00:45:18.934


Yeah, I have to talk myself.00:45:18.934 --> 00:45:27.376


And like people got to realize it's because you see, all these people just like jumping in that cold plunge and it not that easy.00:45:27.376 --> 00:45:32.277


These, I think, showing these people that like no, it's normal, everyone's.00:45:32.277 --> 00:45:42.233


Like you could be doing it every day, but you're still talking to yourself, yeah, talking yourself into jumping into that cold water it's still uncomfortable, like people people think, oh, they're used to it.00:45:42.293 --> 00:45:53.976


Now, although your body gets more and more used to it, you still feel like bitch, like you and you're like, oh, I hate this, like the first 10, 15 seconds that I get in, I'm like I hate this, I hate this, but you still do it.00:45:53.976 --> 00:45:56.693


But you're right, like if you can show.00:45:56.693 --> 00:45:59.072


It's not an adventure, it's not like you're getting.00:45:59.072 --> 00:46:05.570


You know this amazing dessert handy too, You're like this isn't fun, but weigh the pros and cons.00:46:05.570 --> 00:46:06.856


What are the benefits of this?00:46:09.190 --> 00:46:10.574


the pros and cons, what are the benefits of this?00:46:10.574 --> 00:46:11.777


And then that accomplishment takes the whole steps.00:46:11.777 --> 00:46:26.088


Do the do the steps, the preparation, jumping in and like the first 10 minutes and then the hour after, how you feel, like recording, like how you feel and what you're thinking in your mind, totally how your mind's running I think, that's like I've been trying to drop my resting heart rate.00:46:26.108 --> 00:46:38.096


That one time I went I did what you said, you know, like go to the sauna, get out of the sauna, sauna, go into the cold plunge, and my resting heart rate that night dropped like 15 really beats.00:46:38.376 --> 00:46:40.039


Yeah, wow, in one night.00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:58.722


In one night, I'm like it had to be that because I'm like I'm still trying to bring it regularly below 70, but it was like 75 to 78 and that night was 60, the next day was like 65 and then it shot back up, you're resting, yeah, do you ever actually sleep?00:47:00.170 --> 00:47:01.972


oh yeah, ours runs in the 70s.00:47:02.052 --> 00:47:06.277


I drink I drink too much caffeine okay, yeah alcohol messes it up too.00:47:06.277 --> 00:47:08.481


Alcohol just destroys it.00:47:08.621 --> 00:47:13.907


But our like, even our what's the what is it?00:47:13.907 --> 00:47:17.820


Heart rate HRV is like it's way too low.00:47:18.262 --> 00:47:18.750


Is it and?00:47:18.771 --> 00:47:19.853


I've been trying to figure.00:47:19.853 --> 00:47:21.800


You know, get that normal.00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:26.072


Sometimes when we go on vacation that works, or epithelon.00:47:26.072 --> 00:47:31.777


If I take epithithalon, like when I do my cycle of that, it'll jump to 50s, 60s.00:47:32.431 --> 00:47:40.418


But we're always like, I think, just like stress yeah, if you don't ever have that downtime, I used to always be above 100.00:47:40.418 --> 00:47:52.293


And then, like two years ago, I had a medical issue and it dropped, and I've been above 100 once and it's like I will notice days that I'm sick yeah, which is weird, but I just lay in bed because I'm sick.00:47:52.293 --> 00:47:54.179


Yeah, my hiv goes up.00:47:54.179 --> 00:47:56.063


I'm like I have to legit not move.00:47:56.063 --> 00:47:58.914


Yeah, just to get like this is annoying.00:47:58.994 --> 00:48:09.521


Yeah, but yeah, it's, it's crazy that's how your body runs yeah, we're never running like mine's like 20, 30s and then some nights jumps up to 50s.00:48:09.822 --> 00:48:14.119


But did you have an increase when you took cjc or any of the growth hormone releasing peptides?00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:18.054


Not really, it's, it's more epithelial than anything else.00:48:18.675 --> 00:48:31.449


and the other thing is like I did the five-day fast or fast mimicking diet that's like, but like I drop like a log at eight o'clock when you do that and I'm like you know figuring out what day I could do it.00:48:31.449 --> 00:48:32.916


So what I'm curious about this?00:48:32.916 --> 00:48:34.585


Did you do just water, did you?00:48:34.585 --> 00:48:34.949


How was your fast?00:48:35.010 --> 00:48:36.777


So I did the fast mimicking diet.00:48:36.777 --> 00:48:44.597


So there's a package you can get or like there's DYIs that you could do, but like for us it's like Prolon.00:48:44.597 --> 00:48:53.755


They give you these bars, these soups, that and tea that are like.00:48:53.775 --> 00:49:13.599


This guy did tons of research and came up with the amount of like macronutrients and stuff that you could do that mimic fasting yeah and you just take those and you know you get better sleep and it just resets your body and you're supposed to do it like three to four times a year, just cycle it every few months, and some people say, do it once a month.00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:15.641


I'm like I think that's overdoing it.00:49:15.681 --> 00:49:18.684


Yeah, are you familiar with Dr Pompa.00:49:19.626 --> 00:49:19.806


Yeah.00:49:23.530 --> 00:49:25.568


So he's a friend of mine through Genius Network, and so I've talked to him now for about a year.00:49:25.568 --> 00:49:31.307


And I keep trying to get brave enough to do it Because clearly the benefits I'm like I want that reset.00:49:31.327 --> 00:49:32.653


Yeah, I don't know how to do the.00:49:32.653 --> 00:49:38.159


I don't know how to do the water diet, like some people are doing it for 30 days and that's crazy yeah.00:49:38.971 --> 00:49:41.806


I've, only I haven't even done a 24 hour.00:49:41.806 --> 00:49:45.974


Let's be honest, like I eat a lot, so I'm like 12 hours to me, freaks me out.00:49:46.074 --> 00:49:48.639


But I can't even step into 24.00:49:49.659 --> 00:49:51.983


But one of these days I'm going to do it.00:49:51.983 --> 00:49:55.574


I just don't know Like I run.00:49:55.634 --> 00:49:56.978


Check out the Prolon.00:49:56.978 --> 00:50:03.556


They have the five-day fasting mimicking diet and you could do that to start out.00:50:03.556 --> 00:50:12.960


Yeah, just kind of like a stepping stone, yeah and you'll get great sleep and it's good to reset the body and almost work very similar really okay.00:50:13.001 --> 00:50:18.759


Yeah, I almost feel like I need to do a stepping stone because I'm afraid I might just drop dead.00:50:19.641 --> 00:50:32.103


I'm like I can't imagine 24 hours, but clearly people do it all the time yeah, I do like a lot of times, like you know, I'll um, I always fast, I don't eat breakfast.00:50:32.103 --> 00:50:57.972


I'll have like my supplements in the morning, but um, and that's like non-calorie supplements, like vitamins and stuff, and we'll do a eight, ten hour case or I'll have a few cases before that and then walk into that case helping him out and I won't eat and it's like you know I ate at like 6 pm the night before and it's like five, six o'clock before I get out of the case and I'll eat.00:50:57.972 --> 00:50:58.333


Then.00:50:58.333 --> 00:51:02.099


You know, like I've done the 24-hour thing.00:51:02.099 --> 00:51:12.896


I take glp-1s lower dose, but like it's still like kind of suppresses my appetite I don't even think about it and I like, sometimes I'm barely even drinking water.00:51:12.916 --> 00:51:16.422


So wow, yeah, yeah, that's crazy.00:51:16.422 --> 00:51:17.793


That's so interesting to me.00:51:17.793 --> 00:51:19.297


Yeah, but that's.00:51:19.297 --> 00:51:20.762


That's always a true test.00:51:20.762 --> 00:51:30.563


Like everybody is different yeah you know, just naturally say whatever some people could fast and be fine yeah, some people can't do yeah, my wife can't fast.00:51:30.563 --> 00:51:33.938


She has blood sugar issues see, that's where I do too.00:51:33.978 --> 00:51:40.599


And yeah, some people get tachycardic or something like yeah, their heart rate goes through the roof, like with andy.00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:45.599


Andy was like, yeah, he couldn't fast because, yeah, his heart rate goes through the roof.00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:49.014


You feel like he can't do it at all yeah to me.00:51:49.775 --> 00:51:52.762


As crazy as my brain is, I'm like this is a mental challenge.00:51:52.931 --> 00:51:53.875


I'm going to overcome all these.00:51:54.471 --> 00:51:57.456


But then on the flip side I'm like, don't be an idiot.00:51:57.456 --> 00:52:00.081


Yeah, so we'll see.00:52:00.081 --> 00:52:02.509


But you're right, maybe I do the stepping stone first.00:52:02.509 --> 00:52:20.347


Yeah, I'm sorry.