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Hi, I'm Dr Ruzbitt-Tarabi at Age Proof Podcast, and this is Dr Rob Bitt-Tarabi, and we have Whitney Jones with us today and we're talking about longevity, her practices and what she's done throughout her career.
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So what did you do to your shoulders, like well?
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uh, so I'm a pro athlete, I do fitness competitions and gosh, trying to remember the first few times the last one I was on stage at olympia and was doing one of my tricks a front flip kip yeah and I had kind of tweaked it a few weeks earlier and just adrenaline pushed off of it yeah and my shoulder dislocated, ended up tearing the rotator cuff and then broke my collarbone just from that movement Mid flip.
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Yeah, I know Wasn't pretty, but that was the fifth time that I've injured it.
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So it was like hey woman, are you going to slow down?
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I know.
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I know from for me my shoulders.
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Like you know, I used to bench press like pretty heavily in competition when I was younger in high school and I kind of I used to bench press like pretty heavily in competition when I was younger, yeah, in high school, and I kind of stopped during college Not stopped lifting heavy, but I was still lifting heavy, but stopped doing the competitions but like my shoulders are pretty junk.
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You still bench over 400 at that point, yeah.
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But like my shoulders are just junk and like going to do a breast augmentation you know, it's like the you're like forcing your shoulders and, um, you know, I I've thought about like I got to get stem cells into the shoulders.
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Yeah, yeah.
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At some point.
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I don't see why you wouldn't yeah.
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I know it's just to even alleviate or get the better range of motion.
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Yeah, and a lot of it's also.
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Yeah, I've been trying to get more into range of motion and like stretching, like especially like I keep on hearing knees over toes guys.
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So I went and bought one of those platforms to just like do Nordic curls and back extensions.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Just try to like my posterior chain's just tight as hell, because we stand up there working on a microscope.
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Oh yeah, I can't even imagine.
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Yeah, just honestly, if you just stretch your hamstrings and your pecs, it'll just overall put you in and workout glutes.
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It'll put you in better posture for longer portions of the day yeah.
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So that should like minimize like wear and tear.
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Or even go to those places because, like so many people, like a lot of the day, yeah, yeah, so that should like minimize like wear and tear or even go to those places Cause, like so many people, like a lot of the clients I'd train they're like I'm not going to stretch, I'm like then go pay like stretch lab.
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They're dangerous and do it Stretch lab.
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Stretch lab, absolutely so.
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I agree, I will only send people who are like not super tight or not super member.
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Tell them not to have them touch the neck, because the guy was.
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They touched the neck.
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The guy cranked on my neck and I'm like you're not even a chiro, oh wow, no, I didn't know this and I'm like I already have like herniated C5-6.
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I'm like you got to stop doing what you're doing, and then they kept on texting me to go back.
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I'm like no, to go back.
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I'm like no, I'm like I.
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I came here to stretch out my legs and you're cranking on my neck.
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I'm like, because they're all I'm like.
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You're not even chiropractor.
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These kids are like yeah they're kids, they're basically they're like oh yeah, they've never.
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I went twice just to test it out, but it was all like back lower body.
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That's what I was expecting.
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I was like my lower body.
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I just need my lower body stretched out and like they start, they crank my neck side and I'm like what?
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And my nurse practitioner?
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She actually dissected her carotid and she continues to have issues from a chiropractor oh like wow, yeah, yeah.
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Aggressive adjustments now I'm not a fan of that, so I'm biased, but like, if you're going to go, just go to a manual therapy.
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Certified physical therapist.
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Someone who knows what they're doing with anything right Like make sure whoever you're paying services for that they know what the hell you're doing.
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Yeah, and.
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I did it to just like check it out.
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I'm like oh if it's a place I can go and they just stretch out my legs for me and get me a little more range of motion.
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Then I was like, no, this is fucking oh, that's scary yeah my wife's a therapist, so yeah, no, she does great job yeah, the funny part is I was just like, because they do insurance and they do, in scotts, there's a cash pay patient clientele and I kept asking them for our patients, like cosmetic patients that don't want to go through insurance.
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And when she told me their cash pay price it was like cheaper than massage therapy.
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You're kidding?
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No, I'm not.
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I personally I'm in medicine.
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I always thought like, oh, that'll cost me that much.
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So even if you do have insurance and some people's co-pays are higher than just paying cash out of pocket- well, massage therapy, you're talking about massages.
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Uh, going to like phoenician, or uh?
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well, it's definitely cheaper than that, but it's.
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Yeah, I would say it's close to like.
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But it's very similar to like going yeah, a median, not like because you pay for the amenities, the other places you're paying for, like you know, their hot tubs sure all the different amenities yeah but it was.
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I was just like, oh wow, I didn't, I didn't realize that.
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Yeah, I'm sending more cosmetics patients just over there totally I know how well she's trained and how much schooling she's gone through and anytime we get like aches or something, yeah you're like help?
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yeah, I mean I got.
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Do I still have the?
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bruising from the cuffs.
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Yeah, cupping and needling yeah cupping, dry, needling, kinesio tape, and then the manual therapy is just fantastic.
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But you also have to be adamant about doing stuff yourself.
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So if you're not again, stretches exercises, because some people like, oh, I just want to get massages like that, that'll help and certain manual will help.
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But if you're, if you're not adamant about your how you, it's going to be hard to get better For sure.
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Especially, I mean, who do you train?
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Are you training like athletes or Both I train pro athletes who compete in the world of bodybuilding.
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But I don't train any like bodybuilders, so my specialty when it comes to athletes is females, specifically in the fitness division.
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So that's the division where we do the flips and the jumps and the choreograph routines or bikini athletes, figure athletes, so not the overly muscular, basically anyone that gets on stage and has to flex.
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That's not my forte, it's.
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It's all the divisions lower where it's kind of like a beauty pageant with muscles, or the athletic component, which is the fitness division.
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But then I also train everyday lifestyle clients as well as specialty and pre and postnatal.
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That was always my favorite.
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I'm a mom, so the biggest thing after having kids was like oh my God, am I going to be able to get my body back?
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And clearly there's always cosmetic surgery, but you've got to do your part first.
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Yeah.
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And then, if you can't, that's where you know.
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Well, my wife's been looking for someone, so that's perfect.
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Yeah, right, yeah.
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It's just like those women need that boost of confidence.
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Yeah.
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And you're so tired and you're just.
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You look in the mirror and you're just like what?
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Yeah.
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So just having that was always my favorite.
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To Like what?
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Yeah, so just having that was always my favorite.
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To make time for yourself.
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And that's yeah, that's the biggest thing.
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Like my wife tries to do everything for everyone else and then she's like her time's like the last thing and I'm like no, you got to make your body your priority and she kind of looks down on me for actually doing the total.
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I'm like it's me first, like my I.
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You know we have people to take care of our kids.
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I'm gonna go and do my workouts.
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make sure I'm ready to leave the house when I leave the house and then go to work and then come, come back and if I need to get another workout in or whatever, but spend some time with the kids and the way I've started to do it is take the kids into the room and work out with them.
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Yeah totally.
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They work out with me.
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So, like to help the situation but, like you know, it's like you've got to just put yourself first and just take care of it, otherwise it gets out of hand.
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I agree, like I was a single mom.
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My boys were three and five when I suddenly became a single mom and it was like, oh my gosh, and I owned businesses and I'm chasing world championship titles and it's like, how do you prioritize?
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That right but I realize, if I don't take care of myself first, especially mentally, you've got to have that yeah that time to check out and do something for you.
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Yeah, then you can take on the world and you can handle it.
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Otherwise it's like that resentment and you're just like everything feels so heavy.
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And even if it's 30 minutes a day, yeah, it does wonders.
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It does it does.
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And like I, I noticed that like I went to ireland and I had tough time with like jet lag and getting back and I had before I went there I worked out pretty hard and then like all of a sudden I'm like you know was so busy.
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As soon as I came back I was like no, I gotta like get in there and just take the time and do it like and you know, there's just like I got a small amount of time to get things done because the kids are gonna go to sleep or the kids are gonna wake up, so you gotta just get things done, don't you just going to go to sleep, or the kids are going to wake up, so you got to just get things done.
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Don't you just wish we could have clones already?
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I know.
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Yeah.
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One day, at least one, to sleep the humanoid robots are coming.
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Exactly Right.
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We got to be careful, he can.
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He can lift the weights for me yeah, totally there you go no.
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Oh, one thing I was going to ask.
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A lot of people underestimate how much that prenatal period is important with postnatal care.
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So I'm sure you get people both ways, like some that are planning to set themselves up so that after the child they're quick to bounce back and jump back into it, because if you have the habits built up already, and you just take like I don't know how long the break people take.
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I know my wife was working out pretty aggressively leading up to childbirth and I think she just took like three, four weeks off, yeah, um, and then like she bounced back very fast.
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So I think it's important the prenatal stuff although my wife didn't get into it.
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But I think she went through IVF and I think she got pretty big right away.
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She's got a small torso and I think, too many hormones and stuff.
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Well, yeah, that's a lot that process.
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It's also easy for us to sit here and talk about it and I think like too many hormones and stuff.
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Well, yeah, that's a lot.
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Yeah, that process.
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It's also easy for us to sit here and talk about it.
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But, like, like overall I think being pregnant and getting to the gym it helps with like I forget what it was, like I was actually thinking about it and, like you know, like having her like work out and stuff, especially like going if she wants to go through it again, you know, just so she can keep her musculature and stuff, so she doesn't lose it.
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And then, like you know, recovery and stuff.
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I think would be a lot better Having a good foundation is crucial, even just especially for women who are going through fertility treatments, because mentally the oh, it's horrible go through and I was one of those as well with my kids and it's like this constant emotional roller coaster.
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It's great to have that to kind of pour into as you're in the process yeah now not going extreme, because that's where some people are like I'm planning to have a baby, I need to get fit now because I'm going to gain weight not the right time or I just found out I'm pregnant.
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I can't get fat again.
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Not the right time so but having that good baseline of you know at least light lifting um some type of cardio or activity that you're doing and building that strong abdominal, that core, that abdominal wall is going to help, labor delivery, delivery, all of that.
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Yep, you'll push that kid right through the room.
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Yeah, just boom, boom rocket.
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So have you always been into fitness, or was this, like you know, when did you Not really?
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I was always an athlete growing up.
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I had two older brothers, but you know, back then it was you played any sport that your parents would let you hear.
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I grew up in Arizona YMCA.
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So it was like you're in a 12-week program, the next one.
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So soccer and I tried to play football Like I did anything, again being the little sister and the only girl I just wanted to be like them.
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And then you know, growing up I, I did sports through high school, college.
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I ended up um on the dance tier for su and um loved that.
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But then after that it was like, okay, now it's time to get in the real world yeah and so I started career, and that's where your fitness just kind of plummets yeah
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and I loved I'm ultra competitive.
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So I lost that element and ended up going into signing up for endurance events, you know, triathlons, sprint triathlons, marathons, loved that.
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But I'm like God, I thought people got fit with this and that was not the case.
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So then I just started going back to the gym and lifting weights.
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But I was one of those women who thought I don't want to be bulky and get so big with all these muscles.
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Obviously, total misconception, I didn't know.
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But I saw these women getting fit in the gym and you know just kind of slowly getting in shape, tight-toned bodies, like what are they doing?
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And actually ended up getting into this sport that I ended up, you know, kind of flourishing in and building a career out of, out of a dare.
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I just inquired like, why are they so fit?
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And they're like well, you couldn't do that.
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Yeah, I could.
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And from that moment on it was like well, then, do a competition.
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I'm like done.
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And.
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I'm like what did I just sign up for, you know?
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But that's what?
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Again, I think it was that competitive drive.
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I had no desire.
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I was like I got to get on stage in a bikini and let people judge me.
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I don't care what they think, you know.
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So it was totally this weird misconception.
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But if I say I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it, and so it's like you just find that way, block that fear.
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I'm like I got to figure out how to walk in a bikini and not act like I am scared to death.
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I need to get my body in shape.
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And then I actually did it, but then found out there was this division where there was the athletic component.
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I have no formal gymnastics training, nothing.
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But I was like that sounds like it's going to be really hard.
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So that's totally my thing.
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So that's how I got into it and it was just honestly.
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I had no desire to be pro, had never heard of the Olympia at that time and was like I just like having this, to have a focus and a goal.
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Yeah, and then had some life things happen, with my mom passing away with cancer and then a divorce and it was like I need something positive to pour my life into because, being a mom with two young boys, if I let life's catastrophes define me, I'm going to be one of these train wrecks that you see on TV.
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And I refuse to be that.
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So I need something positive, like I'm not going to get into drugs, I'm not going to be one of these train wrecks that you see on TV and I refuse to be that.
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So I need something positive, like I'm not going to get into drugs, I'm not going to start drinking, like I got to pour it into something.
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So it all kind of worked out, timing wise to say you know what, why don't I give this sport a little more effort and set some goals?
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And it was like, okay, I'm going to turn pro, I'm going to get my pro card, and then let's just see where it goes.
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And it was.
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It was a positive thing that, as an athlete, there's so many business applications for me that I learned in how you are as an athlete, with you know doing things that are difficult, taking on massive risks, having confidence when you show up on stage, just like you do in a boardroom, having to almost fake it till you make it in instance.
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There's so many applications as a top athlete that helped me build all my different businesses.
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And so then it's like, okay, this is great, because what I'm learning here as an athlete helps business and what I'm learning as business helps me as an athlete.
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Yeah.
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And I just kept going and for 15 years this was my thing of building businesses and being an athlete.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And we, we always take it back to our wrestling days because, like the days in the trenches, with wrestling it's like nothing else.
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You're like in med school, like you know you could quit.
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Or you're like in med school, like you know you could quit.
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Or you're like no, six minutes on the mat I got six minutes and just do it yes and like you're, like you know one more round.
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Much you put in, the main thing from wrestling I took away is like whether I did good or bad, or just like I knew what I put in and that's what I got out.
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So and that's what the same thing with our sport Like.
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It's a subjective sport.
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I go do the most bad-ass routine and the judges would be like, nah, not very impressed, yeah.
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But I knew at the end of the day I got to judge.
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So every competition before I I walked up those platform steps, before I ever hit the stage I did my own judgment of did I win or lose?
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Yeah, before I ever hit the stage I did my own judgment of did I win or lose?
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Yeah, and I didn't always win, and there were some times I had to step out on that stage going I didn't give it everything.
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I didn't practice, I cheated on my diet, I gave up on certain routine practice, whatever it was it's on us yeah.
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And again, there's times I gave it my all and I didn't win.
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But I was was like these judges aren't going to define my value.
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I know I won, yeah, and that's what it comes down to.
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Discipline it comes down to hard work, showing up and doing what.
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What you need to do when no one's watching?
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Yeah, and that's what helps us as human beings, um, in our line of work, whatever that is is just doing the hard stuff when there's no prize, yeah, at the end of the day, day in and day out.
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Yeah, and like vision quests I always talk about our vision quests that you know our coach would lay us down and just walk you through your moves to win the state championships, and like you'd go through it over and over again and like surgery is kind of very similar.
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You know, you're like you kind of pre-plan everything, look at the pictures the night before, the day before and go through all your steps, you know.
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And I kind of got into plastics, kind of the same reason you got into the fitness thing.
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People told me I couldn't do plastic surgery.
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So I was like, oh all right.
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You're like really Try me.
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Yeah, so I just put my head down and continued going and it was like every step of the way everyone told me I couldn't do it, so, like.
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But now you know, I've been in practice for 10 years, so and people chuckle in like third and fourth year like okay, right out of the caribbean med school.
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You're gonna go become a plastic surgeon I still remember that I'm like we'll see.
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I know, I know I got a shot at it and I know you don't, because it lights a fire, like when there's that doubt.
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If you have that discipline and the your self-confidence, all you need is a little bit of doubt to be like, oh, it's on yeah, it's on yeah, because even like my, my last year of wrestling, like I'd go into tournaments, like and it was bad because I'd I'd like drink and be hung over.
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Um, I don't drink anymore right now, but like I'd be hung over and I'd go and like one of these big tournaments no way, and I used to be like 200 pounds, wrestling heavyweight, like people up to 275.
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They'd be like these muscular, huge guys and I'd be like I'd go on there and I didn't give a shit.
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And that's like I think being hung over kind of gave me this like mind of like not even caring, yeah, like, like, oh, they're, they're some top guy in the region or whatever, and I'd go and like be like all right, oh, I'd win, and it's like you know.
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It's like now, looking back at it, you know that's like where you build your confidence and you just push yourself a little more than the next guy and that's all it takes you know you did mention when you you stopped competing.
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You just like something's off because I wasn't the best wrestler.
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But I just remember when I was done in college, like after college, I was just like it took me a few years to like just stop thinking about it.
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Really.
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It was like because I was like I can't like MMA was just taken off, but like I knew I wasn't going to go into MMA, so I'm like how am I going to like compete again?
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I'm like uh, you have some regrets.
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well, it's true as an athlete, especially if you did it at a collegiate level and a very competitive level.
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Yeah, and same thing with our sport you have to almost have something on the back burner that you can transition to or pour it into because otherwise you're just kind of lost.
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Um, and it does.
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It does happen for a lot of people now.
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If you can pour it into a career or family or some other hobby, great.
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But at a young age.
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It's tough, it's like figuring it out.
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Yeah, you know yeah, you're like, do I have to have a plan b?
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nah, but then you realize, oh wait, it would help yeah, because I, I think I thought about xfl or mma, because I played college football and like I got into the Caribbean med school and I was like, oh, I guess I'll go there, which was the wise choice.
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But like, yeah, we did.