Feb. 11, 2026

Random Pain That Won’t Quit? Here’s Why!

Random Pain That Won’t Quit? Here’s Why!
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Season 1

Struggling with aches that appear out of nowhere and won’t go away?

We break down why your body holds on to pain—and how simple tools like breath, fascia work, and nervous system training can make a difference.

Jeremy, a breathwork coach and recovery-center founder, shares how he overcame chronic inflammation with Ehlers-Danlos syndrome using breath-first strategies that actually stick.

Learn nasal breathing, long exhales to calm your nervous system, and how CO2 tolerance boosts performance and focus. We also cover cold plunges, sauna, red light, and compression and why intention beats metrics every time.

Practical, science-backed strategies you can start today.

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00:00 - Portable Red Light Gear Show-And-Tell

03:45 - Meet Jeremy And His Recovery Centers

06:40 - Breathwork Origins And EDS Journey

10:40 - Daily Breathing Basics And CO2 Tolerance

17:00 - Nose Tapes, Tools, And Nitric Oxide Tricks

22:30 - Back Pain, Fascia, And Trauma Release

26:50 - Cold Plunge Mindset Over Metrics

33:10 - Personal Protocols And Avoiding Comfort Ruts

38:20 - Surgery, Anxiety, And Pre-Op Breathwork

44:00 - Red Light, Hyperbaric, And Recovery Tech

49:30 - Sound, Vibration, And Breathwork Design

56:00 - Fascia Tension, Biomechanics, And Mobility

01:03:30 - Stress, Pressure, And Performance

01:09:20 - Closing Question: The Future Is Breathing

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All right.

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So today we're gonna start the session.

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Like whoever knows me knows that I love red light therapy.

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I always talk about my red light mat, um, which helped me with my back issues.

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Uh, I lay on that almost every night.

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But you know, I need to find something that I could put on my shoulders because the red light mat, you know, you could lay on it backwards on your stomach, and you just can't get like localized tissue uh penetration.

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So there's two different companies.

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I got both of them.

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I bought this one, Prongo.

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Uh, I was researching the Kineon, and I found the Prongo was red light plus laser, um, and it was stronger than the Kineon.

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So I was like, all right, let's get the Prongo.

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And then Kineon gave me a great deal on this for being a physician.

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They gave a discount on it.

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So I was like, let me try both of them.

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And one of the main reason main places I use it are on my shoulders and then on my neck.

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Uh, I and the reason I like them a lot is they're very portable.

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Uh the Kineon's smaller one uh red lights, I'll bring them out so you can see them.

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And they got all different straps, so you could strap it on your back, strap it on your shoulder, and that they're great for travel.

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Even if you're on an airplane or something, you can just uh charge these up and you can pretty much get I don't know how many hours of treatments, but decent amount of treatments uh out of each charge, and you charge them basically by plugging in one of these cases.

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So the Prongo, you see, it's um this is a bit larger than what the Kineon red light is.

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It does carry more power, um, but it is sometimes harder to place on when you place it on the shoulder uh or knees.

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Uh the other good part about the Kineon is you turn on one and all three of them turn on.

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Uh and they they pretty much clip on to the strap, and then you just turn on the power from behind.

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And you can change the settings, how much you want, um, how long you want to do it for, and what you want the settings to be.

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If I can figure out how to turn it off.

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Um the Prungo has these straps that slide on the side uh that you place on.

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And I put them on, like I'll take my methylene blue and I'll strap it on my neck.

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Uh, it's supposed to increase penetration uh of the methylene blue to the brain.

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Uh so they work pretty well.

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They got red light plus the laser.

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So the laser is going to give you much deeper penetration to help with some of the healing and laying down cartilage and collagen for your joints.

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Uh, so these are two different ones I have uh and I use use them to travel.

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Uh they're great.

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Um anytime, you know, so sometimes you go on a long plane plane ride and have lower back pain and stuff.

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Uh these are great to have to help while you're traveling.

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All right.

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And how do you say is it Jerome?

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Close.

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Jeremy.

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Jeremy?

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You're just Jeremy.

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All right.

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Yeah, it's just a weird spelling.

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All right.

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It's originally Jerome when I was a kid.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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O to an A.

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All right.

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That's Jeremy Mutik.

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All right.

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Mutic.

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Um, and I'm really excited because you talk well, your is a clinic or wellness center is based mainly on breath work.

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It's actually so we're a fully guided experience through cold plunging, ice bass, sauna's traditional infrared, yeah, red light therapy, yeah, compression therapy, and then I have a full breath work center as well.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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What got you into this whole breath work center?

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That's a long story, but we'll give you the short one.

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Yeah.

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For me, it was uh I was looking for healing in a different manner.

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Like I was I was trying to try meditation and things to help with mindfulness, you know?

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Yeah.

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Um, I came from a bodybuilding background, so so getting your mind into the body.

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Yeah, it came pretty easily once I dove so deep into training, but I still had all these emotions and things I don't know how to deal with, right?

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Yeah.

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And so I look at trying to develop mindfulness is actually a way for us to manage the stress and process and witness our emotions realistically, right?

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Because then you can say the better you can do that, the greater your awareness you have of emotional intelligence within yourself and others, yeah.

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So for me, it was it was a journey on trying to figure out how to do that, you know, because I just had this awakening moment with looking at myself in the mirror and realizing that like I need to work on some things inside myself.

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And yeah, and so I actually found this exercise, it was like unlocking all the chakras of the body.

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And I was like, uh, okay, like we'll try this.

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This is a little weird, but I'll go for it.

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And it was all tailored into specific breathing techniques into those areas with specific affirmations and where you took your mind, yeah.

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Right.

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And I did it, and then it man, it was like an explosion of confetti inside of my mind to where I'm finally able to feel my body and the breath expand inside of it.

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Yeah.

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And that was about that's probably about eight years ago.

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Okay.

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And and that was my first awakening to breathing exercises and how that can that can do something for you.

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So then I started doing more research.

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Yeah.

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And I have a condition called EDS, if you're familiar with it.

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So Ellers Download syndrome.

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So it's just a collagen disorder.

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Yep.

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Um, the variation I have leaves you extremely inflamed, right?

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So to me, it was like, how can you get this better?

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Basically, doctor recommendation, good diet, exercise, all the things that I already did naturally that never helped.

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Yeah.

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And so I started diving into like, I believe that I can heal this or at least mitigate all of the response that my body's getting the high inflammatory response.

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And so I end up finding Dr.

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Dosa Spenza and Wim Hof.

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Okay.

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And that was kind of like the start.

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And then I just went and got a horse trough, did the ice bath in the backyard, and here we are.

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And when do you usually do the ice baths?

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When?

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Yeah.

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Uh depends.

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So, for example, if um if I want to utilize it uh to maximize my hypertrophy workout, if I'm gonna go to the gym, then I will do the ice bath before.

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Yeah, if I'm just looking for mental clarity and to process some emotions and be more present and honestly to get closer to God because it wipes out all the noise, yeah, then I'll just do it whenever I feel called to it.

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So usually five to six days a week, though.

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Okay, all right, cool.

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Um and like what are some breathing techniques that you uh uh try to teach people to use every day?

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Daily.

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Well, daily number one would just be breathing through your nose.

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Yeah.

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As we know, mouth breathing is not the healthiest, right?

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Yeah.

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But most people have just never been taught how to breathe.

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And so they would say research says that we should be breathing through our nose 95% of the day.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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Only through the mouth intentionally for specific times, or if you hit a high level of heart rate through exercise or something like that, but then try and get to the nasal breathing as quickly as possible.

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Yeah.

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So breathing exercises I give to people, realistically, number one, is just to find your breath first thing in the morning.

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Yeah.

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Because you start your day like that.

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If you go to bed with anxiety, you will wake up the next day in a heightened state, most likely in fight or flight, into some degree.

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And you're probably gonna be breathing chest, chest breathing, possibly through your mouth as well.

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Yeah.

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So if you get grounded first thing in the morning, it's like that's step number one.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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So it just comes down to learning to breathe through your nose, no matter where you're at.

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Yes.

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And as far as exercises go, um, I have a long list of those.

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Yeah.

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But the most common one to just be calmly and through the nose, deeply as you can, and then long exhale like through a straw.

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Yeah.

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Because that's just a really good one for stress management.

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Yeah.

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But also to get you more connected to your breathing and be aware and conscious of it.

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Yeah, I think just slowing down the breath, like I do that continuously during the day.

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It's like, you know, once I picked it up, it's like I remind myself, I'm like, I'm breathing too fast.

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Even like during surgeries, you're like, you're almost not breathing or like breathing too fast when you get into like a tense situation and you gotta just like you know, I tell myself and I take deeper breaths in and out.

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Um, it's a lot harder because we're always wearing a mask.

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But um, do you use any tools like nasal tape, nasal stent, or mouth tape or anything?

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Do you suggest any of them?

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Yeah, it just depends.

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Yeah, it depends on what what the goal is, right?

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So if you're looking to uh we'll we'll break this down.

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Yeah.

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If you need to build up your CO2 tolerance, yes, right, which most people do, because CO2 tolerance is like the key to manage stress because when you start to get into a heightened state, that will happen.

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The CO2 will rise and people start to panic and they get hungry for air.

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Yeah, same thing with exercise.

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If you want to improve your performance, you have to get better with CO2 tolerance.

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Yes.

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If you want to improve oxygen delivery, CO2 is the catalyst for that.

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Yeah.

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So um learning learning to sorry, what was your question again though?

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Oh, just I don't I don't even remember, but uh, oh yeah, as far as products, yeah.

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Sorry.

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Um so as far as products go, it it all depends on what you're looking to do.

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So if you're if it's hard for you to breathe through your nose and you're trying to do something like CO2 tolerance training, yeah, then man, like you're you need to use something that can open that up.

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Yeah, like I've used the intake one before where it's like a magnetic pull.

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Yeah.

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And for me, I've been doing breathe train breath training for so many years now that my pathway is pretty good.

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Yeah.

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And to me, it's just it's almost too intense.

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Yeah, I don't, I I almost I don't have an issue with it.

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So I'm like, you know, all these people wearing tape on social media.

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I'm like, do you really need to wear that?

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And they're wearing it like all the time.

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I'm like, I'm like, my my skin wouldn't be able to tolerate it.

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So that's one of the main things.

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I'm like, I can't like I wear masks every day to operate, and even that I get like a breakdown in rashes and stuff from uh just the mask, so I couldn't even imagine putting tape on my nose.

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And some of the masks used to have adhesive, but I can't even use that anymore.

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So yeah, that's what like that's why I asked, because like some people are like, oh, you gotta use these tapes, and then I'm like, no, I like I I I don't think I could tolerate it, and I don't see the reasoning behind it because we've you know, as humans grown up all these years, like like no one's really weak tape on their nose, yeah, yeah.

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All of a sudden everyone's wearing tape and saying they hyperoxygenate their brain something.

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Right.

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And that's something to consider though, right?

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Is that it's like we're looking at innovation where things are like, hey, how can we make this better?

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Yeah, so we got to show some respect for that where it's like people are trying, because there are folks with deviated symptoms, right?

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Right, so they physically can't do it.

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Yeah, I'm like, yeah, you should probably get that, but don't let it be a crutch.

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Yeah.

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Because at the same time, like you need to train those muscles and learn.

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Like, let's say, for example, if you do a breath hold and then hold, plug your nose, and then you wait until you're desperately hungry for air, then your body produces nitric oxide, which opens up the pathway to breathe.

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So you can actually help someone who has something like a deviated septum to where you just get them to produce more nitric oxide, their pathway will expand and they can breathe better.

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Yeah.

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So it's like, so for you wearing a mask all the time, I mean, that's something that like you should be doing CO2 tolerance training all the time, every single day.

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That way, when you have that, then your body's gonna be able to maintain good gas levels and you'll be more at a calm height.

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Actually, well, for you, you gotta be focused, right?

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Yeah, but calm at the same time.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Because I I can only imagine how intense that is.

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Yeah.

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But your breathing is the key for that.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, and I I do it all the time, like before I go to bed, even when I wake up.

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Um, and if I wake up in the middle of the night, it's you know, and it's become uh in my like subconscious to breathe through my nose too.

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I used to put a mouth guard in to like, I don't know, it's um I read somewhere like trying it out for like realigning my jaw.

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So uh that has to do with realigning your posture, better posture, and it'll also would block my mouth so I'd be nasally breathing.

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So that's why I use that, but like I think I used it long enough where like I became used to just breathing through my nose.

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So it it's like second nature.

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I almost don't breathe through my mouth when I sleep.

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So yeah, so like it's a changeover at the beginning.

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I think it sometimes helps a lot of people um get to that stage, especially with a deviated septum.

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The mouth tape sometimes helps because otherwise you think you're you're gonna pass out, right?

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Yeah and not be able to breathe.

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Um so uh I think that helps out.

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How about like I know a lot of people deal with back pain issues and stuff, and like I I was listening to a podcast where like this guy all he did was like just um specific breath training to get rid of like his back issues because they were talking about doing surgery on his back and he pretty much got rid of all that with just some breath training.

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That's amazing.

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Yeah, that so this is a really good subject, and it's something I think that's massively overlooked.

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Yeah.

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That ties into this is like a huge subject that we can build like a handful of layers on.

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Yeah, I think this all ties into uh trauma, hidden stressors, your fascia and how it holds on to those things, yeah, and the memory of all of those things.

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So then your body naturally will go and retain the stressor and bury that emotion in that fascia because it was trained to do so from whatever traumatic moment happened as a kid, and you found safety in that.

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Yeah.

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Again, a lot that was a big mouthful.

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Yeah, but the breathing exercise, whatever he was doing and the intention behind it was allowing him to finally feel safe to release that.

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So this is where it man, there's there's so much that goes into that because um you could say uh so I've been writing a book now for like a year.

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Yeah.

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Um, but I have this chapter where it's it's called Your Breath Is Trapped in Your Trauma.

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Yeah.

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And so if you can use breathing exercises to go into that spot, yeah.

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When I say into it, like taking your mind into it and trying to shift the vibrational state that it's at, yeah.

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This usually means that the past trauma is is dictating how the fascia responds to movement.

00:14:58.240 --> 00:14:58.320
Yeah.

00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:04.879
And we know that over 80% of our proprioceptors are in our fascia, which tells you all awareness in your body.

00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:15.360
So imagine all the masking that's going on in that one part of that gentleman's back, to where when he can learn to do that, man, it's like, yeah, he's gonna reproduce fluid in through that tissue.

00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:15.759
Yeah.

00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.720
That's where the back pain and the inflammation is probably gonna go down.

00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:27.440
So the more fluid movement you have through the fascia, that means the more freedom that his tissue will create, which means less compression and more proper tension distribution.

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Does that make sense?

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And so that's where using the breath realistically is just activating that part.

00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:37.440
Yeah, it's not even the breathing itself, it's the intention behind the breathing.

00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:37.840
Okay.

00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:38.240
Yeah?

00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:40.159
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:50.240
Um, the other thing you talk a lot about cold plunging and like, is there a certain temperature like people need to hit?

00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:53.679
Um, and timing-wise, how how long?

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Uh how long have you done it for?

00:15:58.159 --> 00:15:59.120
Well, okay.

00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:03.039
Me personally, my longest ice bath, 33 degrees, 26 minutes.

00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:03.440
Okay.

00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:06.960
But every time I say that, everyone's like, oh, competition.

00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:07.679
Like, I want to, yeah.

00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:08.559
It's like, no, no, no.

00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:08.879
No.

00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:14.480
The goal behind that for me personally was how long can I stay in mentally?

00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:14.799
Yeah.

00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:18.399
Not just in the water, but how deeply can I remain connected and stay hot?

00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:22.639
Yeah, and that that's what would I would totally understand from your perspective.

00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:25.039
And that that's where people get it wrong.

00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:27.759
And it's always the competition part of it.

00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:28.080
Right.

00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:31.440
Rather than like, where am I gaining benefits?

00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:32.000
Correct.

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Yeah, because you can't have any ego inside of that.

00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:38.879
And I I say this to everyone when it comes to the water, there's no competition, only cooperation.

00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:39.279
Yeah.

00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:43.759
And so that's where if you look in a specific time frame or temperature, I mean, everyone's different.

00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:48.799
And we've had thousands of people in my centers for the last five years, and everyone's different.

00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:53.120
But and I'm gonna use this analogy because this is actually the best analogy, I think.

00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:56.320
Um, there's science now that's coming out for coal plunging, right?

00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.919
And like guidance and term and cold temperature, and everyone's different.

00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:06.880
But here's the thing if you and I went in the gym together, yeah, and we were training each other, supporting one another, we're gonna instantly go harder.

00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:07.519
Wouldn't you agree?

00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:10.720
Yeah, it's like, dude, yeah, instead of pressing the hundreds, we're gonna go for the one tens today.

00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:13.119
Yeah, you would feel comfortable and safe that I got your back.

00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:14.400
Like, dude, I'm not gonna let you die.

00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:17.839
Yeah, I think you got four, and you're like, okay, yeah, I think I can do two now.

00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:19.599
But it's like, no, now we're gonna go for four.

00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:24.559
If you do it by yourself, you're gonna say, I'm gonna do the 90s today because I don't have a spot.

00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:25.119
Yeah.

00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:29.039
Going into the cold water, the what we do at Reconnect is we guide you through it step by step.

00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:30.880
We get you grounded in the present moment, yeah.

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Utilize your breath, have your intention at the forefront, and teach you how to surrender into the present.

00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:38.319
That way, whatever needs to unfold will unfold.

00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:38.640
Okay.

00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:43.039
So this is where you would say, what is gonna give you the greatest benefit when that happens?

00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:43.920
Yeah, right?

00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:49.759
Because when that happens, all the things we talked about, and this is where I truly believe emotion is like the key to everything.

00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:55.839
Yeah, like when we can process our emotions and witness them, we not only find freedom within our minds, but also within our body.

00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:56.079
Yeah.

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That's where some of the greatest healing takes place.

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So I I've had folks, man, where they would say, doctors have told them do not get in water under this level of degree.

00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:13.759
And I've even had a guy who had um some cardiovascular damage from being in a frozen lake, and something happens to him and he's like, I can't handle the cold, this and that.

00:18:13.839 --> 00:18:16.960
And I said, How much do you want to bet I can get you in that ice bath and you'll be totally fine?

00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:17.200
Yeah.

00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:21.440
It's because I believed that he could do that because I've seen miracles happen in this stuff.

00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:21.680
Yeah.

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I'm sure you've probably witnessed yourself.

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You're like, whoa, it all so much depends on the mind, right?

00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:26.559
Yeah.

00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:30.880
So we've had folks like that to where they'd be prescribed, do not get in water this cold.

00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:34.880
33 degrees, six minutes, they're hot, and they come out and they go, This should be impossible.

00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:35.200
Yeah.

00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:36.400
This should literally be impossible.

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And it's like, it's all about where your mind goes.

00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:38.480
Yeah.

00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:47.680
So as far as my recommendation goes, I mean, yes, science, I'm sure you've heard Huberman and and uh I can't remember her name, amazing scientists as well.

00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:51.119
They've talked a lot about this, you know, about it just has to be uncomfortably cold.

00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:51.359
Yeah.

00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:56.799
But the problem with that is that anyone can convince themselves that 75 degree water is uncomfortable, right?

00:18:56.880 --> 00:18:57.759
It's all about your mind.

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Like you could have so much trauma and fear of the cold or even of the water that you get into 75 degrees and you're shivering like that.

00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:05.680
But all that is is a trauma response.

00:19:05.839 --> 00:19:17.039
That means we're not getting the cold shock proteins and response of what's happening with cortisol being released in a healthy manner, learning to balance this out and getting all these things to regulate and all this amazing communication.

00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:18.720
In fact, the person's just freaking out.

00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:19.039
Yeah.

00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:19.440
Right?

00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:19.920
Yeah.

00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:34.720
So um, what we have seen just in in my centers is that the more consistent you are, and the more that you just surrender to the present moment, I have this quote on one of my on actually on two of my ice baths that says, The water won't give you what you want, it will give you what you need.

00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:35.039
Yeah.

00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:41.200
So as long as you can surrender into the present moment, it will open up all the doors to possibility and you will get exactly what it is that you need.

00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:41.599
Yeah.

00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:51.680
So that's where I don't really have a full breakdown because I go against a lot of a lot of what the science says because I'm like, they can't do science on if you and I were training together.

00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:51.920
Yeah.

00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:55.680
They can only do it on the individual doing the exercise, perform the thing for the program.

00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:56.720
These are the results.

00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:12.079
So going into the cold water, you have to have if I were to guide you through the ice path and you felt safe with me and you trusted me, you trusted the moment, that is gonna bring out different results than if you sat with someone that you didn't trust that was right there, or if you were by yourself.

00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:12.319
Yeah.

00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:14.799
So that's where you got to look at some of these things are immeasurable, right?

00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:16.720
We don't even know how to find an answer for it.

00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:16.960
Yeah.

00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:25.359
I just know that in my centers, we have seen some of the most miraculous, miraculous things with I've have taken a 12-year-old girl sitting there for 16 minutes and melts ice in her hands.

00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:25.599
Yeah.

00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:29.279
I've taken a guy with stage four cancer who's literally got three months to live.

00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:29.599
Yeah.

00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:33.440
And he goes into that water and finds absolute peace, and he's with us for six months.

00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:34.079
Yeah.

00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:34.720
Nice.

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You know?

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Yeah.

00:20:35.599 --> 00:20:40.160
So I think so much of that comes down to the environment, feeling safe, getting the right level of support.

00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:41.839
And then the cold can really be transparent.

00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:48.400
So are you trending to get colder and for longer periods every time they come or like not necessarily no?

00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:50.400
Yeah, I mean, so I'll fill you on this.

00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:53.359
We have a cold plunge at both my locations that's at 45 degrees.

00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:53.839
Okay.

00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:56.240
And then we have two ice baths that both sit at 33.

00:20:56.400 --> 00:20:56.559
Okay.

00:20:56.720 --> 00:20:57.920
So those guys build their own ice.

00:20:58.000 --> 00:20:58.079
Yeah.

00:20:58.400 --> 00:21:01.279
We just we just go off with whatever you're feeling today, go to that tub.

00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:03.279
So we're trying to teach people awareness, right?

00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:03.519
Yeah.

00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:06.880
And I think awareness holds the answers to almost everything we're all looking for.

00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:12.880
Because I mean, you hear like we've talked about before, and we can teach people to tap into that moment and we just say, Hey, what where do you feel called to go?

00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:13.200
Yeah.

00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:18.160
They take a few breaths and they go, I don't want to do that one, but I feel called to do that.

00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:19.519
That's the one you do, right?

00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:22.880
Because we all know, like you want to conquer fear, you go towards it, right?

00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:24.559
You don't let it paralyze you.

00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:27.039
So in those moments, we're teaching people how to do that.

00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:27.279
Yeah.

00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:35.039
I think that's where like the real mental resilience comes versus going, well, I always do this level of temperature, I always get in the water this way, and I always do this thing.

00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:39.599
I'm like, you're trying to make something that's meant to be difficult easy and you're missing the whole point, right?

00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:40.000
Yeah.

00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:40.640
Yeah.

00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:46.799
And uh for me, like the cold plunge is like one of the gadgets I haven't bought yet.

00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:50.480
Um, I think it's gonna take up too much space in my house.

00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:54.079
Um, but I do plan on putting it on the house I'm building.

00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:59.359
Uh what I usually do is though, I like during the winter time, I'll jump in my pool.

00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:03.039
Um, And that usually gets cold enough.

00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:05.680
I I think it's pretty, pretty darn cold.

00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:19.519
But I think one of the main things that's held me from getting a cold plunge is one of the first things, is probably because I come from the northeast and that's been so traumatic that I'm like, I just don't want to be cold and wet, you know.

00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:24.640
Um but yeah, I've I've gone c comfortably five, ten minutes.

00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:30.319
Like when I go to some of the gyms or spas, I've like been pretty comfortable like going in there.

00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:35.839
And it and a lot of it's just like I practice breath work before stepping in there.

00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:37.519
But what what's your belief?

00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:46.240
Like some people say if you do it like three or four days in a row, then you're like, you know, you pretty much almost don't have to even think about it.

00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:47.680
You can go in there.

00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:49.920
So yes, that can happen, right?

00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:50.880
You build tolerance.

00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:51.279
Yeah.

00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:55.599
And and here's here's the the part that I always have to challenge with that.

00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:58.799
Is that if you let's say you do it four days in a row.

00:22:58.880 --> 00:22:59.039
Yeah.

00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:01.680
Yes, your body's now going to adapt to the cold better, right?

00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:03.440
Versus day one to day four.

00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:07.119
But depending on your emotional state, will actually dictate what really happens.

00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:07.359
Yeah.

00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:14.960
Because if you, let's say the first time, man, you were you were stressed out, you're feeling it, and you're trying to understand what exactly is going on inside of me.

00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:15.200
Yeah.

00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:16.559
And then how's it going fine?

00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:22.319
Um and then day four, you feel so, okay, I understand what this feels like now.

00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:25.359
I've already gained this access of how to process my emotions and things.

00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:25.759
Yeah.

00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:28.319
Then um, day four is gonna feel different.

00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:35.519
It might even feel easier, but yeah, the same type of work can still be taking place as far as you're building emotional intelligence in yourself.

00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:37.440
You're learning what this feels like.

00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:47.279
Yeah, and if you do it by yourself, then I think what you can do is you can learn new coping mechanisms and new ways to condition yourself how not to feel, yeah, which is not good, right?

00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:51.599
But if you're keeping the active work on, staying aware, letting yourself feel it all the way through, right?

00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:51.839
Yeah.

00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:55.839
Like really tap into feel every bit of aliveness that flows throughout you.

00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:56.000
Yeah.

00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:58.559
That way you can learn to manage the stress response.

00:23:58.720 --> 00:23:58.960
Yeah.

00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:02.880
Day one to day four can still be really progressive and healing.

00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:04.720
So then for me personally, right?

00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:10.720
So I did I did one year straight three times a day for the first four months, and then it went down to two times a day, morning and night.

00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:13.920
And you could look at that and be like, what would be the point of that?

00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:15.359
Because I was trying to understand.

00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:20.880
Like that's that's why I I speak from this some experience for the last eight years of this is what I've been doing.

00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:25.519
And I've walked so many people through the water of every type of personality and condition disease you can imagine.

00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:27.839
Yeah, and everyone's different all the time.

00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:32.319
And every time someone starts to develop, like like I said before, like, well, this is my routine now.

00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:33.680
I go, why?

00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:36.960
This is the routine is getting into discomfort, right?

00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:39.119
Don't make the uncomfortable thing easy though.

00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:39.759
So then, yeah.

00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:44.240
So what I'll do is I'll switch it around where it's like, okay, you're gonna you're gonna get in and you're gonna head dunk right away.

00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:47.680
Now when you come out, or we're gonna go in, we're gonna wave your arms first for 10 seconds.

00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:50.240
Okay, when we go in now, we're gonna do this breathing technique beforehand.

00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:51.920
You're gonna sit the opposite way in the tub.

00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:57.200
Okay, when you go into here, now it's like, so then you're always switching up to where you're breaking that pattern of trying to find comfort.

00:24:57.359 --> 00:24:57.519
Okay.

00:24:57.680 --> 00:24:58.240
Does that make sense?

00:24:58.400 --> 00:24:59.519
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:12.400
Yeah, because that's you like for me, I try to ease into it, you know, whenever going in there, try to figure out how I'm gonna ease myself in there, uh, you know, and get comfortable.

00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:21.599
Uh ease yourself, but like in Yeah, into the the water, just in the cold plunge, whenever you're doing the cold plunge.

00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:23.039
Okay, yeah.

00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:26.160
Yeah, and that's and that's totally normal too, right?

00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:32.160
It it's more like what we don't want is is for you to always do the same thing.

00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:35.759
Yeah, because then you're missing out on so much growth opportunity, right?

00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:36.079
Yeah.

00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:38.480
So, like, let's say you are easing into the cold water.

00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:40.480
Yeah, say it's your first couple times.

00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:41.359
Absolutely, man.

00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:42.480
Let's be gentle, right?

00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:46.000
There's no need to be aggressive in this thing because you will not win.

00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:47.759
Yeah, because there's no winning or loser.

00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:49.359
Yeah, like it's pure cooperation.

00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:53.599
That's why we tell some folks that maybe you would get in the water for five seconds, that's a victory.

00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:54.480
Yeah, you know what I mean?

00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:56.640
It's like because you might have faced the biggest fear.

00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:01.599
Like, we literally have like we had this woman who lost her son who literally died in a frozen lake.

00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:02.720
Yeah, she had to watch her.

00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:03.680
Yeah.

00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:07.759
And it was like she came in and she's like, I want the ice bath because I want to heal this.

00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:18.000
Yeah, dude, it was like the most beautiful thing ever to watch this woman conquer that because her fear of the cold, because she was reliving that moment, you can't even imagine the amount of pain, right?

00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:18.559
Yeah.

00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:25.279
But to see her stand up in the ice bath and just praise and just thank the Lord that it was like, oh my gosh, like I did it.

00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:27.039
It was almost like a baptism.

00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:28.640
Yeah, it really was.

00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.039
And it was just like, wow, you know what I mean?

00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:35.200
All because of stepping into that, you know, and and facing it and wanting to face it.

00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:38.720
But it's like we could have allowed her to be like, just keep doing what you're doing.

00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:44.240
Yeah, and just keep going in the 45-degree one and just find comfort in there because you never would have healed that wound.

00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:50.640
Yeah, it all came down to the environment feeling safe enough for her to be like, I want to switch this up, let's do something different.

00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:52.000
Like that's the growth, right?

00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:56.000
So for you, man, if you did it, if you did it four days in a row, try a different approach.

00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:58.960
Next time, like, don't even do your breathing when you get in, just get right in.

00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:03.039
Yeah, if you're like boom, right there, that's a beautiful moment.

00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:04.480
Let yourself feel that rush.

00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:08.880
Of course, the adrenaline's pumping, but contain it, use your breath and manage that, you know?

00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:10.240
Okay, yeah, yeah.

00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:16.799
Um so we're talking about cold plunges, cold plunges and the breathwork.

00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:21.440
Yes, so so that routine you're talking about, it's similar to like working out, right?

00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:27.759
If you are gonna do the same exercise set, you're you're gonna plateau out quick.

00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:34.480
You gotta like stress your body in different ways to like be able to get those uh gains in the gym.

00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:36.000
Yeah, a hundred percent.

00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:38.319
Yeah, because I mean we've all heard of muscle confusion, right?

00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:38.799
Yeah, yeah.

00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:44.559
But the confusion part comes through volume load and and metabolic stress, like how far you push it, how far you don't.

00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:48.319
And there's so much data out there when it comes to everyone, I feel like responds a little differently.

00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:53.680
Yeah, you can look at look at the best bodybuilders in the world, and you can look at like man, the top five, and they actually all train differently.

00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:59.519
Yeah, like, man, these guys are they look incredible, they're the biggest, you can't get any bigger, but yet they all train differently.

00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:00.640
Yeah, different volumes.

00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:07.359
Some of them stick with two to three sets and they do 12 to 15 reps, and other ones are like, no, man, I do five working sets of six.

00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.559
Yeah, and then it's like then or long reps, everything short reps.

00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:27.119
Yeah, well, and when you follow, like you follow some of the, you know, go through the magazines for some of the competition workouts, and then when I went through Schwarzenegger's book, and I'm like, uh it's almost like a day job doing Schwarzenegger's workouts.

00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:28.880
I'd be like three, four hours.

00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:37.039
So it's like three, four, yeah, three, four hours a day, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm only halfway through this workout for today.

00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:38.960
Just smoking weed and working out.

00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:41.599
I feel like I forgot I have a job in a life.

00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:42.720
Yeah, geez.

00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:46.720
But yeah, that's that's the whole thing is learning to find the the right level of stress, right?

00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:48.880
So like hormetic stress is ideally what we want.

00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:50.000
And I feel like that's for everything.

00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:58.319
So cold water, sauna, um, even like exercise, like we said, like all those things will have a sweet spot for each person to where they're getting maximum gain.

00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:01.599
Yeah, you know, and that's ideally what I think what we want for all the stuff, right?

00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:05.359
Is to like, because stress, chronic stress can create disease, right?

00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:06.160
We all know that.

00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:12.559
But if you have a good amount of stress and you manage the stress response well, then it's like a constant growth and no plateau.

00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:13.200
Yeah, yeah.

00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:14.720
No, I definitely agree with that.

00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.759
We grew up in Rhode Island, so it got cold.

00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:25.680
And I mean, I I can't stand the cold now, like weather-wise, because I'm like, oh, I just decided to be cold.

00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.319
I could have just decided not to be cold.

00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:34.240
And it but I I would go around wintertime, like close to zero degree weather.

00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:39.279
I'm like, I'm not gonna be out that long, and I just don't want to take care of a jacket.

00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:42.480
So like when I go in, I gotta check my jacket in.

00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:58.160
So I'm like, and and the way I got comfortable doing that was breathing because I realized like first thing I did, like when I got out in the cold, I was like holding my breath, like the sympathetics fire up, and like you're just tensing up.

00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:01.440
And I was just like, I'm just gonna let all of that go.

00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:03.519
The temperature's still gonna suck.

00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.519
It's not gonna be like, oh now I'm like in a heavenly battery.

00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:09.119
It just feels negative 37.

00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:11.759
Yeah, you just it's just like okay, breathe it out.

00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:19.039
Like your your blood vessels, like just relax, and there's a whole different response.

00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:25.680
And and that that that's when I realized that oh, this makes a huge difference, like the way you breathe.

00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:29.440
And yeah, I I don't do it often now though.

00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:35.279
I'm telling you, but except when my car's acting up every Tuesday night, and that just happened, yeah?

00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:44.720
Yeah, I missed the one last week, and then I picked the car up this morning finally, and I had to drop it off after work today.

00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:47.599
Use your breath, right?

00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.200
Yeah, the same thing.

00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:50.240
Yep, yeah.

00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:51.519
Oh man, yeah.

00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:53.279
They gave me a different loaner.

00:30:53.440 --> 00:31:00.000
I was just like, I can't, I can't drive 45 minutes to where we're doing surgery tomorrow.

00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:01.920
Like, I can't take an Uber there.

00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:05.759
I spent like a good like four or five hundred bucks in Ubers last week because of this thing.

00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:10.559
So I'm like, I am I I'm like, it just got in the hospital.

00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:12.160
I did my case today.

00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:14.799
It's notorious for always being delayed.

00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:23.440
I wasn't gonna get out that late, and my case was delayed an hour and a half, which which is a lot.

00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:29.440
Like, for if you're standardly delayed an hour and a half, that's where we're it's a lot of and do some breath work.

00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:30.720
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:37.359
I swear at this hospital's physician lounge is the perfect place to hold a breath work seminar for surgeons.

00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:39.920
Hour and a half was actually good.

00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:42.480
I was like, oh, this is so nice.

00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:48.799
I thought I was gonna be delayed three hours and then not know if I'm gonna go at that three-hour mark.

00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:50.960
Were you at Andy Elliott's?

00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:52.559
Did you do Andy Elliott's thing?

00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:55.119
I've been to a lot of his events, yeah, yeah.

00:31:55.359 --> 00:32:00.480
All right, because I saw I thought I saw you like uh like what was it, two, three weeks ago.

00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.039
Oh, yeah, and I walked in through some breath work there.

00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:04.319
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:06.799
Yep, that was uh uh paint con.

00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:07.599
Yeah, paint con.

00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:09.839
Yeah, so it was a lot of painters and contractors and stuff.

00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:17.039
And okay, um, yeah, so that was great to be on stage and and it that's most of the time when I get on stage, it's actually for that.

00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:17.440
Yeah.

00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:23.920
Walk in and do some breathing exercises and get them kind of primed and ready to learn, you know, because just like you you talked about like holding your breath, you know.

00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:32.960
Man, how often, like you even said it in surgery, you're like, man, sometimes I'm like, and and that that's what we need to try and fix realistically, because that is just a stress response.

00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:36.400
Like, how do you handle that vibration or that emotion when it comes into you?

00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:38.799
Usually holding your breath is the most common thing.

00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:43.359
I mean, I did it, like I the abuse I took as a child taught me to hold my breath and keep my mouth shut.

00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:43.839
Yeah, yeah.

00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:52.960
And as I grew up and I started diving in, like I talked about earlier, about connecting to my breath, I finally opened up where I could get my first diaphragmatic breath.

00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:53.680
Yeah.

00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:58.160
I'm like, oh man, that feels like a world of a difference, you know?

00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.240
And man, straight to the bathroom.

00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:03.759
Because it's like, whoa, how much tension was held in my gut?

00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:05.839
Yeah, and I never really knew how to release it.

00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:12.960
And obviously, I started diving more into biomechanics and fascia, and we hold the majority of our tension in our guts, got the freaking mind of its own, and all that.

00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:19.200
It also makes sense with sympathetic, parasympathetic, because your parasympathetics are gonna make your gut run.

00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:19.599
Yeah.

00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:25.680
So, like, and if you're tense, stressed out, that's your sympathetic response all of the time.

00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.119
And you're able to let let the parasympathetic run.

00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:35.599
So that's probably where like even thinking about physiologically, like that's yeah, makes sense.

00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:37.200
Opens up the gates.

00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:38.160
Yeah, yeah.

00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:40.079
To like everything, really, to like everything.

00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:42.000
I mean, just besides your guts, you know.

00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:55.279
But um I don't know if you guys talked about it earlier, but like surgical training at the because you're you're just most programs create this very stressful scenario.

00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:56.880
I don't know, yeah, anyway.

00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.799
Even if it's I did general surgery even if it's not stressful, yeah.

00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:09.760
So I did a couple of years of general surgery like um like arguably like malignant, like high standard program.

00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:18.159
And you just like and then you go to operate after you try not to fuck up on the field, like taking care of patients.

00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:25.519
So first thing you do, trying to throw suture or whatever you're doing in the case, you're you're holding your breath.

00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:34.000
And like that's it, it's like if you can't conquer that, like you're like, oh it there were multiple times.

00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:48.239
I would say first, definitely the first whole year, definitely first two years, but it then showed up like rarely, but for a few years, it's like it's just like I gotta remember to breathe.

00:34:48.320 --> 00:35:01.039
I'm holding my breath because I might be shaking a little bit trying to do a like five motor skill, but that shaking is making me hold my breath even more, and it's making that worse.

00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:02.320
Yeah, under a microscope.

00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:06.559
Under a scoop, I I always like remind myself to breathe through my breath.

00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:13.920
Now it's kind of actually microsurgery is a good good exercise for like breath work, yeah.

00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:18.559
Because if you stop, like it's gonna show like right there.

00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:22.000
Like you're not gonna be able to do your job if you're not breathing.

00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.039
But you know, like something that popped into my mind.

00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:32.000
I think we we should have Jeremy like teach like our staff, especially with opening up the surgery center.

00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:40.639
Like our our nurses in the pre-op area before the surgery, I think they should work with the patients on like breath work.

00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:44.960
I I think it's so important because everyone comes in so anxious.

00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:56.480
Like, you know, some people want like Valium and stuff, look, but like working with them before they go into before they even go under the knife to surgery.

00:35:56.639 --> 00:36:02.320
I like like just taking that proprioception away, like right at the beginning.

00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:03.599
I I think it's huge.

00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:12.960
And that's what we use, you know, we use the numbing medication, we try to use that before like we even make the cuts, so they have less pain throughout.

00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:18.639
But like if you can take away that anxiety, I think overall recovery will probably so beneficial.

00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:24.719
Well in the pre-op visit, and then doing it in the in the yeah, yeah.

00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:42.800
I think uh starting it in like the pre-op visit and then the day of surgery beforehand, and it'll help them help patients like respond to pain, soreness, recovery a lot better too, because it'll give them tools to make the whole journey a lot easier on them.

00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:44.159
Man, that'd be amazing.

00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:45.199
Yeah, yeah.

00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.039
I mean sounds like it's a done deal.

00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:48.159
Yeah, we should just do it.

00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:49.440
Yeah, we should just do it.

00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:58.000
I mean, really like break break that down a little bit and realize like, I mean, how stressful that surge getting surgery is the anxiety that comes in, you know.

00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:01.039
I mean, you're always telling people to just relax and breathe, but I imagine for you guys.

00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:04.800
Just calm calm down.

00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:06.239
Calm down.

00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:24.960
But but really like getting getting um getting the patients to be completely relaxed beforehand where the anxiety drops, I mean, it will allow for their bodies to respond to not only the drugs that need to be taken, but think about how like the body already naturally defends itself all the time, right?

00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:29.840
It's always in this state of like I need protection because it's looking to conserve energy and survive.

00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.239
That's why like it'll eat up its muscle first, right?

00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:35.440
It'll do this first, all these things where so you guys going into surgery.

00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:44.480
I mean, if we just added something like breathing exercises to where the person regulates beforehand, then everything else, it's gonna be so much easier.

00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:48.880
Where you're like, imagine a massage and the person's you're like, you know, okay, let's give it some drugs.

00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:53.760
I swear, that that's one thing I can't breathe through.

00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:54.559
It's a pedicure.

00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:56.239
And I'm like, I fucking hate pedicures.

00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:07.599
The person's like, I don't know, I believe relaxed, relax, and he's like putting his whole body weight into like stopping my toes from sticking straight up.

00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:08.960
He's like, I can't do anything.

00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:10.159
I'm like, I'm done.

00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:11.280
No more.

00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:15.119
Like, I knew I hated this crap and then just hate it more.

00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:15.679
Yeah.

00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:19.199
If you can put through a pedicure or teach me how to, then you can't.

00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:20.719
I'm fine with it.

00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:25.599
I've I don't get them all the time, but my wife asked me every once in a while.

00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:30.159
The first time I went with her, she was like, you know, she ordered this pedicure.

00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:31.360
I was like, what the fuck?

00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:32.880
People actually like this.

00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:39.360
I'm like, what do you and and then come to find out, she got me like the cheapest one because she didn't know how I'd like it.

00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:45.119
So the second time I I went, I was like, you really ordered me the cheapest one?

00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:45.920
I want this one.

00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.880
So I I I get it all like decked out a little bit.

00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:50.000
Not the whole time.

00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.239
I mean, the cheapest was it was so good.

00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:55.760
I was like, all right, I could do this.

00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:59.119
The closest I'll get to a pedicure is a shoe shine.

00:38:59.280 --> 00:38:59.679
Yeah.

00:38:59.920 --> 00:39:01.760
You just gotta go to a good person.

00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:03.599
Everyone's got their thing, you know.

00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:05.199
Yeah, I can't, I can't.

00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:06.880
Was it a Vietnamese lady?

00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:08.239
I don't want to be racist.

00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:10.000
Well, it just said pedicure.

00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:12.159
You got some good comfort there, you know.

00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:14.239
You gotta have the right person.

00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:18.800
If you had a white lady doing your oh, it's a red light therapy.

00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:20.400
Already?

00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:20.719
Yeah.

00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:21.440
Who brought it?

00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:22.800
You or me.

00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:23.280
Okay.

00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:26.559
Yeah, it's my portable red light therapy.

00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:27.920
I have two of them.

00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:30.000
Oh of course you have two.

00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:32.719
Well, I bought this one here, you know.

00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:39.599
And then you offer that for like$150, and it's like a$500 thing as for physicians.

00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:41.760
I was like, I'll take it.

00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:43.199
I'm like, absolutely.

00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:47.199
This one's just marketed a lot better, and it's much more portable.

00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:51.199
These are little wonkier to put on your shoulders and stuff.

00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:52.000
So yeah.

00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.880
You guys ever been in front of like a large panel?

00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:56.639
Yeah, yeah, we have yeah.

00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:57.199
Oh, you do?

00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:02.239
Yeah, we like we and that's why we did this because we we do a lot of wellness.

00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:10.960
Like I'm I'm into wellness, longevity, like do peptides, and we have hyperbaric therapy, and then we use the red light.

00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:16.320
Those are the two main modalities post-op we're using a lot for post-op care.

00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:26.320
So thing about like you're saying your your body when you're stressed, stress takes energy, and that's uh you you have a certain amount of energy in your body.

00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:53.840
So if you're gonna be stressed out post-operatively and you're you're you have a set amount of ADP set for whatever your body's gonna take, you have extra inflammation healing coming because you had a big surgery and you're spending extra energy because you're stressed out, you're probably gonna have a higher risk of complication of like your wound not healing right.

00:40:53.920 --> 00:41:08.400
So we're trying to like just optimize blood flow, optimize lymphatic flow, optimize energy expenditure in in the body to so your body can use it for what it needs, and that's healing.

00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:10.079
Man, I couldn't agree more.

00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:11.039
That's amazing.

00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:12.639
I love hearing that you guys are doing that.

00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:14.400
Yeah, like that's what every place should be.

00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:27.440
And and the main thing that sparked my interest too was like, because like what in the pre-op area, we're usually marking and making our plans, and the patient's standing there, and you know, it's usually a cold room.

00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:29.599
They're you know, they're naked.

00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:43.440
Um, usually we put the other people that are there, sometimes they're fine with their husbands or family members being there, but for the most part, they're standing in front of a stranger, like pretty much naked, and we're marking them.

00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:48.639
A lot of them think like our markings gonna be off if they take deep breaths.

00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:52.559
And sometimes, like a few weeks ago, like I had to stop almost three times.

00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:54.400
This girl kept on fainting.

00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:56.079
Oh, I have I had one patient.

00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:58.320
I was like, Do you have scoliosis?

00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:03.360
Because like sometimes you you don't notice it until like you're marking because it might be slight.

00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:05.599
I'm like, No, I'm a little tense.

00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.199
I'm like, okay, can you relax?

00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:11.360
And you're like, Oh, you don't have scoliosis for a while.

00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:15.440
I thought I was like trying to figure out why everything's so crooked.

00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:23.440
She was internally running, so like holding on tight, like that her right shoulder was like digging into her ear.

00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:28.480
It was like just yeah, yeah, we'd let's take a deep breath.

00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:33.039
Let's and we do a lot of breast cancer surgeries too.

00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:42.400
So that yeah, those patients already come like at another level, and it's expected because they're going through it's like a traumatic experience for them.

00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:45.599
So trying to just calm that situation.

00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:55.119
Yeah, because it's not just the trauma from the diagnosis in like a short sp uh period, usually like in like what two to six weeks.

00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:10.800
They go from diagnosis to seeing a radiation oncologist, medical oncologist, surgical oncologist, plastic surgeon, going over different potential plans with each of them and again in that two to six week mark.

00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:16.719
So, like, and we we can't say anything about the medical oncology part.

00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:26.639
Like, if I had to go through it, like all the medical oncology, like nowadays, not I wouldn't say all of it, but a lot of it would be just new information for me.

00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:29.039
I was like, oh, what does this actually cause?

00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:30.159
What does this do?

00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.719
Do I even know what the right questions to ask?

00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:36.880
So that that that is very uh high stress.

00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:40.159
Yeah, we need to get some breathing involved in this, guys.

00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:43.119
Yeah, like some full blown, like like a spot.

00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:43.760
Yes.

00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:44.960
Yes, definitely.

00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:46.000
I do have an app.

00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:46.400
Okay.

00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:48.719
So we connect.

00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:51.440
Uh it's called Air Breath, A Y R Breath.

00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:52.239
Okay, okay.

00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:54.559
And uh it's videos of me like guiding you through breath work.

00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:58.000
Okay, like all different types, like from like 60 seconds up to 25 seconds.

00:43:59.360 --> 00:43:59.760
T shirt.

00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.880
That's why I guess we can see the reconnect shirt, you know?

00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:04.159
Yeah, but yeah.

00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:05.760
Where are your spots?

00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:09.039
Where do you have um Scottsdale, Scottsdown Thunderbird?

00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:09.199
Okay.

00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:11.360
And then in Mesa, Wrecker and McCallops.

00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:11.840
Okay.

00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:12.159
Okay.

00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:12.639
Yep.

00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:15.039
Pretty close to both our clinics, actually.

00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:15.440
Yeah.

00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:16.000
Oh, really?

00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:16.400
Yeah.

00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:20.639
And what sort of treatments do you have available at the different locations?

00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:21.760
Are they the same?

00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:23.840
So they're they're both technically the same.

00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:24.000
Yeah.

00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:29.519
It's just the Scotsta one is just it's a little bigger than this, but but realistically, it's all the same stuff.

00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:34.159
So it's uh infrared saunas and uh traditional sauna.

00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:42.480
And then compression therapy, arms, hips, and legs, um, red light therapy, the the massive large panel is actually like the top of the line ones on the market.

00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:43.199
They're amazing.

00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:47.039
And then uh two ice baths, both are worthwhile because we're which one did you get?

00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:47.920
The mito red.

00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:48.480
Mito red.

00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:50.480
Yeah, the mito red, like their their newest one.

00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:52.000
Okay, is that again?

00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:58.000
No, well, we have the platinum LED, and then yeah, just kept on reading reviews.

00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:00.239
It was like between mito red and platinum.

00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:02.000
Yeah, both both great.

00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:16.320
You know, like when you because the reason I went with mito red, not only are they local, which is great, but um, I watched a video of a guy take apart six different red light therapy devices and EMR Tech and Mitored, he found that like it was exactly what they said it was.

00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:23.679
Like he measured the diodes in there and what it was producing and the output, and it was exactly what they said, and all the other ones were like fourth of what they put.

00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:25.679
You're like, dang, man, that's why they're so cheap.

00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:27.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:28.880
Cost cutting measures.

00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:31.280
Yep, that's how it works because you would never know, right?

00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:44.159
Like you bought this thing off of Amazon for a hundred bucks, and you're like, Yeah, well, that's yeah, it's like you know, and some people are like you know, they're getting them from Alibaba, they make them like look the same, you know.

00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:50.880
So yeah, they'll just don't even need the lights, they are like they look like they're the same exact thing.

00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:51.679
They look identical.

00:45:51.920 --> 00:46:00.559
I mean, I'm gonna start in the whole center, they're actually just like normal 60 watt light bulbs with red saran wrap over.

00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:03.679
We're going top notch.

00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:05.039
Top notch.

00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:06.639
You guys want the best quality.

00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:15.599
Yeah, so so we're we're looking at so we're we're looking at it's called the Amortal Chamber.

00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:24.719
So um what it is, is it's red light, it has some vibration therapy, and then it's got hydrogen therapy in there.

00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:26.400
Um what else?

00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:28.239
It was like multimodal.

00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.119
So I was like, But is it like a like a chamber you sit in?

00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:39.679
Um it's like it's a red light bed, and the top actually like kind of it's hydraulic and it comes down.

00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:41.280
You sit on the bed.

00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:45.840
The good part about the bed is that like you don't have to lay flat.

00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:55.039
And for our tummy tuck patients, yeah, you gotta hunch over kind of sit up and where we're just think of it as the George Foreman grill of wellness.

00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:56.719
Yep.

00:46:57.199 --> 00:46:57.760
Sounds pretty sweet.

00:46:58.079 --> 00:46:58.559
Six and one.

00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:00.159
Yeah, six in one.

00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.000
Sounds like a good Christmas present.

00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:03.599
You're ready for recovery.

00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:05.760
You guys are putting that in your place?

00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:08.000
Yeah, we're in our new surgery center.

00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:08.719
We're gonna put it in.

00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:09.199
Oh wow.

00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:13.280
We just gotta walk in, hyperbarracks delivered.

00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:18.639
That's that's uh he he was a big pusher for the hyperbarracks.

00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:24.800
And we have a pretty decent chamber, but again, like you're saying, you have to go in there, lie down.

00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:30.320
So, like a lot of people that use it are post-mommy makeover tummy tucks.

00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:34.159
Oh, yeah, so it's hard to lay flat, or even if you're propped up.

00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:37.920
So now it's like oh you can walk in, have multiple people in there.

00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:39.119
Oh, okay.

00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:39.840
So it's big.

00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:40.719
Yeah, yeah.

00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:43.840
Yeah, it's four person with four recliners.

00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:44.639
Yeah, wow.

00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:47.199
And so it's vibrations, like the chair's vibrating or not.

00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:48.159
No, no, that is not.

00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:50.880
That's a different thing this is just the hyperbaric chamber.

00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:52.000
So gotcha, okay.

00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:56.000
The vi it's vibroacoustics, which is like free different frequencies than your air.

00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:56.559
Gotcha, okay.

00:47:57.360 --> 00:47:57.920
So that makes sense.

00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:00.079
Yeah, and their headset, whatever they have.

00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:00.719
Very cool.

00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:02.239
Yeah, yeah, it's like vibration, man.

00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:04.400
That's uh some powerful stuff.

00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:05.760
Yeah, yep.

00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:06.559
Yeah.

00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:11.440
You guys ever do uh you guys ever had like a sound bath or something like that or been a part of that?

00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:12.960
And you just have a vibration therapy?

00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:14.880
Yeah, it's pretty awesome.

00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:16.400
We do it with our breathwork classes.

00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:19.039
Do you are you in water?

00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:20.000
No, no, no.

00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:21.119
Um have done it.

00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:23.519
Uh so sound bath.

00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:26.079
So it's pretty much like you're being bathed in vibration.

00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:26.559
Okay.

00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:28.159
Yeah, so it's pretty wild.

00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:31.039
Um, so each of them have a specific hertz, right?

00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:34.320
And and it's wild when you play specific ones.

00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:38.480
And if that vibration is off in someone, and they can measure this stuff too, which is really cool.

00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:49.840
You will literally see people start grabbing their throat, and they're like, and we're literally playing the throat ball, which is so I mean, we played the one where it's the the the crown bowl, right?

00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:56.639
So under the head, and I literally will watch people start going, so you just in the middle of the regular speakers or no, it's actual bowls.

00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:58.239
Like oh, the sound bowls, yeah.

00:48:58.320 --> 00:48:58.719
Sound bowls.

00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:00.079
I have done it.

00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:01.039
Yeah, I've done that, yeah.

00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:04.320
Yeah, I was my wife uses it to put our kids to sleep.

00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:06.000
Hey man, it works.

00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:07.280
Yeah, yeah, calms the nerves.

00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:12.079
The first time I did it, Sedona, great place to do it.

00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:12.559
There you go.

00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:15.440
They believe in all that stuff, yeah.

00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:23.360
And I was a little bit like I was pretty tired, like going into like a long weekend, and we went there, we did it.

00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.960
I I I was tripping the whole time.

00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:32.400
I was just like, So, like my wife brought up doing it again.

00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:34.400
She didn't have the same feeling for it.

00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:36.880
Yeah, I'm like, oh yeah, no, I'll I'll do that.

00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:38.400
I'll do that any day of the week.

00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:39.199
Let's go.

00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:44.800
So they're like, oh the the lady that did it is at the I think we did it at the princess.

00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:47.679
It was like, it could get pretty intense.

00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:53.920
So if it's gonna be too intense, sit with your head that way, away from the bulls.

00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:57.840
If you want more intensity, had like sit at your head.

00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:02.159
I was like, okay, my head's gonna get as close to this bull as possible.

00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:09.440
It wasn't quite as extreme as the prior time, but I absolutely love it.

00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:18.400
It was just like for the whole hour, I'm like, just like my body's useless, and it it just put me in such a great headspace, yeah.

00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:20.480
Completely relaxing.

00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:25.920
Those sound bowls are are I'll do it whenever.

00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:29.039
Yeah, so I I use different twice a week a Mesa.

00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:30.480
Yeah, so there you go.

00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:31.920
I use different gadgets.

00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:36.239
Like I use like the Brain Tap, which has some math work stuff on there.

00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:36.559
Yep.

00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:39.920
I have the Muse too, but I I don't use that as often.

00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:42.079
But like the Brain Tap, I don't know.

00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:46.159
I think it's got more modalities and gets you more in like a trance phase.

00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:50.239
But like there was yeah, there was one of with which one?

00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:50.559
Sorry.

00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:51.360
The brain tap.

00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:54.800
Yeah, there there was there was one 45 minute session.

00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:59.199
No, I need it back because I gotta order a new battery.

00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:02.480
I used to use I use mine like daily.

00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:05.440
Um, mine's not working right now.

00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:06.960
Can I get that one back?

00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:14.559
So yeah, it works so well, like you know, getting you in like deep sleep, and you just notice the difference.

00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:25.119
It's just it's got a huge menu, but they haven't updated they don't have many updates, which I don't think they really need, but I'm like, I'm always looking for the newest one.

00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:36.239
But some of the breathwork stuff, like one of them, like I was like, I decided to listen to it first day on like a Saturday mor first thing on Saturday morning, and I'm laying there.

00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:48.079
I felt like I was in a rave, like just listening to this thing, and like it had all these, oh yeah, it had all these emotions coming out too, and it was like all different ways of like breath work.

00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:53.519
Um, the one guy uh you had emotions that's a new thing.

00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:55.440
I know that's a thing.

00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:58.800
That's a that's the right breath work, the emotions came out.

00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:03.760
Yeah, I was actually trying to get on that program because I walked him through his first ice bath initially.

00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:05.840
And that like he thinks he did a little interview on it.

00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:08.480
He did a little interview on it.

00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:12.000
And uh they gotta get bigger, better sessions, more sessions.

00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:17.599
Yeah, I I know I did the breathwork thing on there too, and I mean, not to discredit the the guy and like the manga.

00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:18.559
Right?

00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:19.039
It's Paul.

00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:20.400
Yeah, Pavo or something like that.

00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:20.960
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:25.360
I'm just gonna f yeah, I'm just not a big fan of that style of breathwork, you know.

00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:27.840
Like I I thought he made two.

00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:30.960
Do you do that much noise in your breath work?

00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:33.840
Because his seemed like way too extreme.

00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:38.239
I'm like, like I got kids sleeping in my room, or like my wife.

00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:52.000
They already think I'm fucking nuts because I'm like, I lay on a red light mat and like I got my brain tap on, and I'm doing this crazy breath work, and I'm like, I can't make that much noise with like yeah, what they expect with the breathwork.

00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:54.000
So let's let's break that down a little bit.

00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:56.320
Um my my breath work.

00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:58.400
So what I created is called resurrect breath work.

00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:04.000
Yeah, and a lot of it is so I come from a personal training background, being a biomechanic specialist.

00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:15.519
So if I were to train you guys, we're gonna start out with some breathing, and then we're gonna go into myofascial release and then breathe during your myofascial release, and then we're gonna do some corrective exercises that get you primed and ready, then we start the workout.

00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:15.840
Yeah.

00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:17.360
So most people that do breath release.

00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:20.239
What type of myofascial release?

00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:21.039
Deep layers.

00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:27.119
So it'll be like with lacrosse balls, PVC pipes, uh, five-inch balls, things like that, like through the gut, trigger point, all the areas.

00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:37.519
Anything that's gonna like let's say we're training legs, or we're not only gonna roll the legs out all the way down to the feet, but we're gonna do your gut, which is gonna obviously tie to everything since the majority of your myofascial reading lines run through, right?

00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:40.559
And then we'll even do like your lats because your lats can extra your glute.

00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:45.440
So anything that's like gonna fire up and help with movement of your legs, then that's what we'll roll out.

00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:45.920
Yeah.

00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:51.840
So breath work, usually they skip that whole process and to stretch you out 225 on the bar.

00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:53.119
Yeah, you're like, dude, what?

00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:54.000
That's crazy.

00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:56.880
Because I don't even know, I'm not even aware of my breath.

00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:58.880
I'm not even I don't even know if I'm breathing properly.

00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:00.239
I don't even know how I actually feel.

00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:01.599
I'm just gonna do this thing.

00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:04.000
Okay, get settled into your body, do those things, blah, blah.

00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:04.800
What does that even mean?

00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:06.400
How do I get settled in my body?

00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:09.039
Most people don't know how to do that because they don't even have the awareness.

00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:17.119
So, yeah, I break down um all of my breath work classes uh to where it's like elementary level because I don't know where anyone is at.

00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:30.880
Like I've had people literally travel across the country to come and experience these to where they are practitioners and they've gone and taught other countries and they're like, whoa, like no one really takes this much time to teach you how to breathe before you go into breath work.

00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:34.480
And so that's where like BrainTap has been missing the mark on that.

00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:36.480
And that's where like this is this could be amazing.

00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:43.599
That's why I actually opened my app up and started it, is because it's like, man, people need to learn how to breathe, better their overall breathing, and then go into breath work.

00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:43.920
Yeah.

00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:47.920
So I would never just start with like, ah, yeah, it's like, no, no, no.

00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:52.559
We're gonna get you aware of your breath, we're gonna find it, connect to it, get into your body first.

00:54:52.960 --> 00:55:00.079
Because I thought I was crazy, like listen to stuff, and I was like, I just couldn't do it because it was just yeah, it was too much.

00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:02.320
And the music sometimes can be very chaotic.

00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:06.480
And like, if you come into my classes, man, it's we're talking like it's like vibration music.

00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:16.480
Yeah, you know, with like a little bit of stuff going on in the background, and then I'll increase the music little by little the more you guys get into the present moment because then you can receive it.

00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:23.119
So I my classes are all like a movie, yeah, or like a song to where it builds into the and you have that chorus and the breakdown.

00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:25.760
And so I'll use music that's really powerful.

00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:31.360
Like you guys watch a movie trailer, and if you play it with no audio, you're like, Oh, that's cool.

00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:35.760
But you play with audio and you're like, Man, my soul moved in that is because of the music they use, right?

00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:37.519
That theatrical, powerful music.

00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:42.079
So I'll use that kind of music, yeah, and like I'll build it only in the right moment.

00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:45.519
That way it feels like your nervous system is welcoming it.

00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:46.079
You know what I mean?

00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:50.239
Yeah, so it starts out very chill, very relaxed to where you're actually able to connect to your breath.

00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:54.000
Because then once you drop in, there's no more thinking, it's only feeling.

00:55:54.159 --> 00:56:00.800
Then you bring in more powerful music, and it's not like no offense, like African tribal, like you know what I mean.

00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:09.280
Like if anything, oh yeah, I'll use like some aggressive, like where it's got like a hard, like, yeah, I'll use some Hans Zimmer sometimes.

00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:10.480
Yeah, yeah, stuff like that.

00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:15.360
That way it's not because what you described, man, is is a gap that I saw in breathwork teaching.

00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:19.440
It's always like the crazy jungle style music, and I'm like, why?

00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:27.199
Yeah, like most people, if you play anything that's theatrical versus something like that, almost everyone's gonna navigate towards the theatrical.

00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:28.800
Yeah, because that stuff touches our soul.

00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:30.400
This stuff makes us want to move.

00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:34.880
You're like, hold on, breath work is a way for you to consciously shift your state.

00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:42.320
So if we need to go inside to do that, we need to be in our body in a calm state, not this like crazy chaotic, I want to go dancing.

00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:42.800
You know what I mean?

00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:48.239
And that's the that's the hard part about a lot of the way breath work is taught is because it came from those cultures.

00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:48.639
Yeah.

00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:54.880
So bringing it over here, um, it's it's been kind of like some people come to my classes or was like, well, this is so different.

00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:56.320
Like, why did this feel so?

00:56:56.480 --> 00:56:59.440
And I'm like, well, different music, different intention.

00:56:59.519 --> 00:56:59.840
Yeah.

00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:06.239
And uh, and and all of it is really just designed for you to do the work, not for me to make some beautiful theatric show.

00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:07.119
You know what I mean?

00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:07.920
Yeah, yeah.

00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:08.960
No, it makes sense.

00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:11.039
The cirque de soleil of breath work.

00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:12.000
Yeah, yeah.

00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:12.960
Yeah.

00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:16.159
No, like you're no, I'm gonna do a cartwheel breathing.

00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:18.079
Everyone, open your eyes.

00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:20.000
I'm swinging from the rafters.

00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:22.800
Yeah, we're trying to stay away from that.

00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:23.599
You know what I mean?

00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:25.760
Hey, if it works, go for it.

00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:27.599
This is true, it's true.

00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:29.840
Gets the people going, you know?

00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:39.519
It's definitely something I want to try out because, like, yeah, my my legs and my lower back, like they're much better.

00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:49.679
I've been doing like the knees over toes guy, but it it some of it's like just stretching and just relaxing and just being in the operating room.

00:57:50.159 --> 00:58:07.280
It's I try, but like when you're so tight from like when I started my own practice, it was just like, you know, I just worked, so like there wasn't much exercising, it was pretty much operating, and then like I party sometimes.

00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:10.960
Over a hundred, yeah, yeah.

00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:13.199
For six years in a row, eight years in a row.

00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:14.800
Yeah, and it was like every day.

00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:22.880
So it's you know, like my hamstrings became so tight, I'm like, I had a real hard time like getting them loosened up.

00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:30.880
But since I've you know, the past three years I've gotten more into working out and stuff that's kind of loosened up, but like not to the level where it needs to be.

00:58:31.119 --> 00:58:35.920
Because like I used to be able to do splits and stuff, and now it's like, yeah, I couldn't even get it.

00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:36.880
That would be weird if you're gonna do it.

00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:38.559
I I can barely touch my toes.

00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:42.559
Hey, if it gets them ready though, yeah, that is true.

00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:45.760
Check me, check what I can do on this poll.

00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:47.679
Main thing.

00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:57.199
Um, I think a lot of people do like that causes those symptoms, and the more you neglect it, the more you do.

00:58:57.519 --> 00:59:09.679
You're usually hunched over, so stretching your pecs out opens that up and the hamstrings being tight because that just puts your pelvis in this like forward tilt.

00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:17.760
So like stretching the hamstrings out gets you more to a neutral spine than like just go.

00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:20.559
Can I dive into this a little bit?

00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:21.360
Yeah, please do.

00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:23.519
Yeah, so like I I love this subject for one of the things.

00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:24.239
He's a bodybuilder.

00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:25.519
Yeah, he's all in the back.

00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:29.440
My wife's a physical therapist that does myofascial release and manual therapy.

00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:30.800
That's why that's why you asked.

00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:31.039
Yes.

00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:31.440
Yes.

00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:36.800
Um, okay, so that I love this subject because uh it's something that again is super overlooked, right?

00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:40.559
And it's actually so we need tension and compression in our body.

00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:42.400
Like without it, we'll just be like noodles.

00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:45.679
Yeah, but then typically we end up getting too much, we'll have the what you just talked about.

00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:47.039
Hamstrings are too tight.

00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:50.960
So all that means that something else is pulling it in the wrong direction, right?

00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:58.239
So what we do is, and this is how I've had folks with scoliosis that we talked about like real extreme scoliosis, like this for like 30 years, and now they're like this.

00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:01.679
It's because we change the tension load on the fascia.

01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:08.559
So if someone is bound tight, we'll just use you as an example in the seated position for all those hours, brutal, right?

01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:12.320
Sitting is not the problem, it's the tension that becomes the issue.

01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:18.000
So the tension is being pulled too long in that direction, and the path of least resistance is gonna be chosen.

01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:20.719
And that's what your tissue does because it conserves energy.

01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:25.599
So all of a sudden it gets tight because it starts turning things off to turn on other things, yeah.

01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:27.440
Secondary muscles versus primary.

01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:37.440
It tells the fascia, which is like ultimate communicator, it's like the most intelligent organ in the whole body, and it literally has like this massive wave of being like, what should we do, guys, that's gonna save the most energy?

01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:42.000
This is where our bodies are naturally bound in a specific rotational pattern.

01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:44.639
This is why we all kind of operate a specific way.

01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:51.119
Like if I had everyone in this room run and we filmed it all in slow motion, all of you would have like a different head placement.

01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:58.000
Like whenever you your foot hit the ground, boom, your land, your foot would land a little bit different, your knee would rotate slightly different, your hip would shift a little different, right?

01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:06.239
And and you can say, well, that's just how it was developed over time because of like we talked about trauma before, your job, like all these things can contribute.

01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:10.159
Yeah, but it all comes down to changing the tension load.

01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:10.719
That is it.

01:01:11.199 --> 01:01:17.840
So for you and your hamstrings, like you can do all the exercises in the world, but if you're not actually changing the tension load, then it's not gonna stay.

01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:18.079
Yeah.

01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:26.559
So you can sit for six hours and have no issues every single day, no movement all six hours, as long as you have the right amount of tension.

01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:26.800
Yeah.

01:01:26.960 --> 01:01:27.119
Right.

01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:28.320
So I'll give you an example.

01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:33.119
So, like, for example, if I'm sitting here like this, right, and I'm locked in this position for this long.

01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:36.960
So if I want to loosen up my hamstrings, I need to fire them up.

01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:37.199
Yeah.

01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:40.079
Don't stretch them to turn them off or do something, uh, those kind of things.

01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:50.320
It's like I would get my leg out and I'd push my heel into the ground and I would pull back as hard as I could, and then I'd rotate to that side and suck my stomach in, and I'd push my head over just like that.

01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:55.679
And I might even pull the shoulder blade back, and it's hard for me to breathe because I'm pulling it as hard as I can, and then I'd relax.

01:01:55.840 --> 01:02:03.760
So now what I did is I just not only fired up my hamstring, but I got all the connective tissue that allows for movement and rotation to take place to engage.

01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:04.079
Yeah.

01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:08.159
So this is where I was at this retreat, they hired me out to do some breath work.

01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:15.039
And the day before, a gentleman did, they were playing volleyball, and he like stepped back, boom, and like, oh, jammed something up in his back.

01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:18.559
He's like, I don't know if I can get into the the ice bath and do this stuff, man.

01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:19.599
My back adjustment killing me.

01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:21.199
And I was like, Can you explain what happened, you know?

01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:27.440
And he shows me what happened, and I was like, Okay, do you want it me to help you fix it real quick, and then you can just enjoy the rest of the day?

01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:28.480
And he was like, What are you talking about?

01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:30.320
I was like, Yeah, I don't think you actually hurt anything.

01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:33.679
I think that you just you shocked something, hit a nerve, and it turned off that tissue.

01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:36.480
So let's fire up your glute max and your adductor, and it'll probably go away.

01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:36.719
Yeah.

01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:37.760
And he was like, Okay.

01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:47.840
So, anyways, I had him do this neutral position, draw stomach in, elevate up the rib cage, pick up his hip as high as he could, and fire up his adductor into my leg, which fired up the opposing glute.

01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:52.880
And then we just held until his nervous system started to freak out, held for about 45 seconds, and then he stopped.

01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:53.920
All of his pain is gone.

01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:57.119
Yeah, because we just got the tissue to fire up properly again.

01:02:57.360 --> 01:03:02.639
So for you sitting for all those hours, man, if you just get the right things to fire up again, you won't be tight.

01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:10.880
Like that's what's so cool about fascia is that we can actually ultra manipulate it within like 60 seconds to where it's like, is it long term?

01:03:11.039 --> 01:03:11.599
No, right?

01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:14.159
But you have to train it that way to where it gets long term.

01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:24.719
So if you train like, yeah, if there's certain things you do, you can do like weekly or twice a week things that like keep things loose and working appropriately.

01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:25.119
Right.

01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:33.280
And and then it's it's then it is long term, you know, because then if you stop doing that and like two months later, things get tight.

01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:35.280
Like that that's why.

01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:35.920
Yep.

01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:41.119
Yeah, I mean, uh for me being so when I bodybuilded, I bodybuilded.

01:03:41.519 --> 01:03:42.559
Oh my bodybuilding.

01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:44.159
My bodybuilding so good.

01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:46.000
Man, I'm bodybuilding good.

01:03:46.159 --> 01:04:01.840
No, when I was a bodybuilder and I was I was much larger, like for me, running, filming myself run was like embarrassing to watch because I just had all this compression and you could yeah, and then when I would diet for a show and I'm like look opening up my back, you could see all like my vertebrae protruding.

01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:03.440
You're like, okay, this is an issue.

01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:03.760
Yeah.

01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:08.800
Once I got into corrective exercise and biomechanics, I realized these are all problems here.

01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:10.960
I need to fix all these things, and how do I do that?

01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:13.599
So it's by changing the tension on my fascia.

01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:17.199
So now my vertebrae went back in, is my abdominals went back like this to support it.

01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:18.159
So now it opened up.

01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:19.199
Now you see no vertebrae.

01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:21.599
It's like, whoa, all the tissue sits where it's supposed to.

01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:26.320
Then you see me run now, and it looks like I run, I'm running like a gazelle, like I float when I run.

01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:26.639
Yep.

01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:27.039
Right.

01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:33.840
So you would say that all I was all that compression that stopped my body from being able to move well, right?

01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:40.480
So then I just had to alter the compression because our bodies, Thomas Myers, if you guys are familiar with him at all, he describes us the very best.

01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:44.800
He's like the guy why him and Robert Schleipe are like the whole reason why you even know about fascia.

01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:52.880
Like they've been the ones like princes hire them out to uh their country and they come and they're it they're part of the knee surgery to make sure the fascia's cut just perfect.

01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:56.880
So when they lay it back down, it's gonna fully be 100% with no scar tissue damage.

01:04:56.960 --> 01:04:57.360
You know what I mean?

01:04:57.519 --> 01:04:59.119
Yeah, just incredible work.

01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:04.960
But um that you talk about like we are just these tensegral units that are constantly fighting for tension.

01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:09.760
So everything inside of our bodies, again, this is with the motion, breathing regulation.

01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:20.079
Like this is why, even going into surgery, doing something like breath work and corrective movements would literally prime the body for surgery to where your guys' job would be so much easier.

01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:28.320
And I'm telling you this because I had a client of mine who who did this, he got he got the full hip replacement, carve it out, put a new capsule in there, pop it in there.

01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:33.360
So we did three months of nonstop connective tissue training, like all functional movement, right?

01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:38.960
Everything in rotation, tension loading, blah, like really just changing his mechanics to where his hips would just be amazing.

01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:40.559
I did a lot of breath road training.

01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:44.079
He went in for the surgery, and the doctor was like, What did you do?

01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:47.519
From like, I saw you three months ago and we decided to pick this date.

01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:51.360
He's like, everything just moved so they just it was a piece of cake.

01:05:51.440 --> 01:05:53.039
Yeah, and it was like, This is what we did.

01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:54.719
And the doctor was like, What the heck?

01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:57.119
Or the surgeon was like, This is crazy, never say anything like it.

01:05:57.280 --> 01:05:59.679
And he's like, Well, we got his nervous system super regulated.

01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:06.400
His fascia was hydrated and he was fully present to be able to regulate his emotions before he even went in.

01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:06.719
Yeah.

01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:08.800
So it's like, and then it just makes your job easier.

01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:10.480
And you're like, man, there's no fighting in there.

01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:10.960
Yeah.

01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:11.920
Pretty wild.

01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:18.480
A lot of people don't realize uh like the structure of your body, like your superficial structure.

01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:29.360
You have skin, subcutaneous tissue, you have a thin layer of superficial fascia, then some more fat, and then you have your like deep fascia.

01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:29.679
Right.

01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:33.519
That covers most of like your muscles and stuff.

01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:46.320
But it it's just when uh my wife was going through um manual therapy therapy certification, and like she's like, Oh, you might think it's BS, just let me try this out.

01:06:46.559 --> 01:07:00.559
And it just made me realize like, even even like intensity and that superficial fascia can result in like bigger problems because it's not just that deep, like thick fascia that causes the problem.

01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:13.760
I think that superficial fascia, like release and keeping it relaxed, hydrated adds a lot to movement and not pulling on things deeper down inside.

01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:22.000
Yeah, so it it I was just like, yeah, I was like, This this actually makes sense because she was just like, You you might not believe in this.

01:07:22.159 --> 01:07:26.400
I was like, uh this actually does make sense, and I feel better.

01:07:26.639 --> 01:07:29.440
So, and this is why I think I feel better.

01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:31.760
So I think I think this works.

01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:33.199
I love that.

01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:39.119
And this is like 20 years ago, this is like early on in my medical career, yeah.

01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:42.559
So I'm I'm a strong believer in that.

01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:47.840
And I'm also it's like low stress means maximum productivity.

01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:54.320
Everybody responds to stress differently, but when when I say stress, it means different things to different people.

01:07:55.039 --> 01:08:06.000
If you're gonna if you're gonna spend 90% of your time stressed out about like whatever's happening, that means you only have 10% of your capabilities to like complete that task.

01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:18.079
But some people are like 90% stressed out, so they add to that 10%, they like they can be like 30-40 percent productive, but like have we talked about this before?

01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:22.079
But like we have for me, I have a totally different belief in it.

01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:34.319
Yeah, but for me, for me, I get um, I feel like I'm optimal with like 20 to 30 percent stress because if I have like zero stress, I don't get anything done.

01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:36.239
I need some stress.

01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:39.279
Actually, I would I I take that back.

01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:42.880
Now I think it's 20 or 30 to like 70 percent.

01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:45.199
Um I'm pretty productive.

01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:55.600
Anything more than that, I'm just gonna be like probably too focused on the the stressful event rather than focusing on accomplishing what I'm supposed to.

01:08:55.840 --> 01:08:58.880
I do like I I just think of it differently.

01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:02.159
I I well chronic stress is the leading thing.

01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:05.439
He doesn't have he doesn't have that stress center in his brain.

01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:27.680
Chronic stress is the leading leading ca cause to uh decreasing like line longevity heart disease stroke but like also it's like you know when you're looking at growth and you know like what we do, like you're an entrepreneur, and for an entrepreneur, if you're comfort comfortable, you're not growing.

01:09:27.840 --> 01:09:28.159
Right.

01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:37.199
You know, you need this, you know, you you need it to open up your second center that you know to drive you to to do more, to you know, think about it more.

01:09:37.439 --> 01:09:45.119
Like for me to sit still and be comfortable with life and how things are going, then you're gonna slowly fall behind.

01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:49.119
So like I think stress, like in different ways.

01:09:49.199 --> 01:10:05.199
I I don't really stress it's called you know, overall it's thought of as stress, but you know, do breath work and all these different modalities to not have real stress, but like have the stress of like wanting to uh do better and be better.

01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:16.880
And like a recent quote I heard that that was like huge was like, you know, I I I don't hate the pain of winning.

01:10:17.119 --> 01:10:18.239
I hate losing.

01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:19.680
That's what drives me.

01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:24.479
Hating to lose is what drives me to be the best at who I am.

01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:25.039
I love that.

01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:28.399
But like, yeah, there's no pain in winning.

01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:39.600
Um, you know, like when you work out, like you you're not, you know, you're not doing it like you know, to to win, but you hate losing to people.

01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:42.239
And that's like kind of going back to wrestling.

01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:57.119
We wrestled forever, and like in wrestling, you know, you drove to be the best, like you hated to lose, but like you you did those spins, you puked and practice every day because you you wanted to lose.

01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:01.119
You hated to lose.

01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:02.319
Yeah, yeah.

01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:16.159
No, that I I I I love the two different perspectives, and I think everyone's and that's the thing too, is that you would you can look at stress so differently from all these different lenses, you know, to where it's like, well, if you're stressing, then you're probably have no faith and you're not you're not being present.

01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:17.439
But it's like, hold on a sec.

01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:23.279
But if I'm being stressed while I'm doing the thing, it's actually pressure that could just be moving me forward.

01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:36.720
Yeah, you know, that's something we have to consider, and I think that's also that's that better pressure, is like where like I you know, like for me, like I don't take you know, people stress out over money.

01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:38.720
I'm like, it's just money if I lose it.

01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:45.840
But like, you know, I want to make more, and like it it's not making more that drives me.

01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:52.399
It's just like it's the pressure that drives me to try to do better and be better.

01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:53.680
Or it is a label.

01:11:53.760 --> 01:12:00.319
If you make more money, you feel like you're accomplishing more subconsciously, not like, oh, okay, I made this much money.

01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:03.039
Like you can go out and sell crack and make money.

01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:03.760
That's not gonna be.

01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:07.439
I just seriously think money's more digits in the bank account, that's all it is.

01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:11.119
And like once you think of it that way, it doesn't really matter.

01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:14.960
You just you know, you just want to be the best version of yourself, yeah.

01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:19.600
Best version to your wife, best version to your kids, and that's like what's important.

01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:24.640
Yeah, and that's that's where I think it's important for us to like know differences between pressure and stress.

01:12:24.720 --> 01:12:34.000
Yeah, you know, because then you could you could like look at your wife and be like, she's actually just pressuring you to do something because she wants you, she sees the best part of you.

01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:42.239
She's like your wife should always see the best version of you living inside of you and constantly trying to push you and pressure you to bring that side out.

01:12:42.399 --> 01:12:48.319
Yeah, because you, as the man, are always like sees the worst part of you and tries to erase it.

01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:50.800
There's therapy for that.

01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:57.920
That's a different conversation we gotta get her into breathwork.

01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:05.199
But but at the same time, because like that is such a good example where there are a lot of men who say, My wife is stressing me out because of these things.

01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:14.159
And if you have someone who's like, nah, man, she's actually just it's just pressure that you feel because she sees the man in you that should be living today, right?

01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:20.159
So that's where like us being able to have that awareness and be like, man, this actually isn't stress, this is pressure.

01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:24.479
Yeah, and that that's a whole thing with like creating alpha males these days.

01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:30.479
It's like like, are you able to withstand it like that pressure that your wife's putting on you?

01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:32.000
Is it the correct pressure?

01:13:32.159 --> 01:13:39.840
Like for my wife, we're we're both like type A personalities, we just both work our asses off, and like we don't care.

01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:44.399
A lot of people, you know, there's a lot of haters, but we're like whatever.

01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:50.159
But we push each other, and I look at her like I'm like, fuck, she was yelling at me.

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But like I I look at it and like try to figure out what I could do better.

01:13:54.720 --> 01:14:04.079
You got you know, there's a reason she's doing that, and there's ways to kind of squeeze her so you don't have to do stuff that pisses her off even more.

01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:04.960
Yeah.

01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:09.119
Well, if it's like folding clothes, it's like completely wrong.

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I'm gonna fill the maid another maid to fold more clothes.

01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:16.560
No, I just wanted you to fold the clothes.

01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:17.520
She watched it.

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We don't watch it either.

01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:24.399
My wife definitely doesn't want she watched one episode.

01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:28.000
I was like, oh, you were saying this stuff about hormone stuff.

01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:32.960
I'm like, yeah, we we actually talk about stuff that matters to people.

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She's like, it lined up with exactly what this influencer was saying or whatever.

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We're trying to bring like useful knowledge to people to like better themselves, yeah.

01:14:46.399 --> 01:14:55.520
And then like when I say something that might not line up with something I might have said on a prior pod, that that's you're human.

01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:56.159
Uh yeah.

01:14:56.399 --> 01:14:59.199
So you were talking about ending question.

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I I thought about this.

01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:11.199
How about um, you know, like we end it like with asking everyone what's one modality or supplement that you think is gonna change the future of wellness?

01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:12.000
I love that.

01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:14.159
Yeah, that's a great question.

01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:21.359
So, and I think I I think that I I think I've been drinking Neuromind, the more plates, more dates guy.

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That shit actually works.

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But yeah, I guess you go ahead and ask.

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So, yeah, what's one supplement or modality like red light or or something like that, or tool that we can use?

01:15:36.399 --> 01:15:39.760
And do you think it's gonna shape the future of wellness?

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Breathing.

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I think 100% without a doubt.

01:15:43.680 --> 01:15:50.079
Yeah, breathing with the right techniques and the right type of guidance of the breath, because breathing can regulate everything.

01:15:50.239 --> 01:15:59.279
Like you can be on the most perfect dieted regimen with nutrition, exercise, all those things, and and if you're not able to regulate your emotions, you're a freaking ball of chaos.

01:15:59.359 --> 01:15:59.520
Yeah.

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So if you can, whether it's sitting here and having a conversation about these things or having a hard conversation with your wife or with your kids or uh employees, whatever it is, the number one regulator and connector to the present moment is your breath.

01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:14.079
Yeah, I see that.

01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:16.159
Yeah, I totally see that.

01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:25.039
And we always talk about sleep, and it's no better way to get to sleep than like having some breath or yeah, sleep is a huge one, without a doubt.

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But, and I will say this because I've worked with people for over the years with it, even if you get terrible sleep and you get your breathing in check, good oxygen delivery, inflammation stays down, you have great productivity, then you're like, wow, the sleep isn't as important because I'm still recovering so much through the power of my breathing.

01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:45.760
Sleep is still very important, don't get me wrong.

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But if you don't get it, use your breath.

01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:52.560
I I think that's what he was trying to get at is to get better sleep, yeah.

01:16:52.720 --> 01:16:54.399
Is to get your breathing in check.

01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:54.720
Yeah.

01:16:55.039 --> 01:17:00.079
Because like just getting yourself ready for bedtime, the breathing exercises.

01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:02.079
And not to get yelled at by your wife.

01:17:02.159 --> 01:17:05.920
If you take a breath before you answer her back, usually you can answer better.

01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:06.640
Oh, yeah.

01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:09.279
Oh god, I back that up.

01:17:09.439 --> 01:17:09.680
Yes.

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Kill time.

01:17:11.279 --> 01:17:12.720
Kill time and think.

01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:14.479
That's all it takes.

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Oh man.