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Why don't you introduce yourself and your background into wellness and how you treat aesthetics, right?
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Your wellness and aesthetics.
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Yeah, definitely a combination of both.
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So I'm a licensed naturopathic doctor in the state of Arizona.
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Graduated from Sonoran University of Health Sciences in 2023.
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And then I went on to do a family uh medicine uh residency for about a year.
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Um, and then I started looking into opening up a business.
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Yeah.
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However, um, I had a little bit of a poor experience um kind of looking for work and working with other naturopathic dogs who sometimes are um a little bit more uh trying to take advantage of the younger docs.
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Is that the process of joining another practice?
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Yeah, a lot of the time of what I felt joining this guy.
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Oh, get out.
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It's like, God, just guy just trying to take advantage of me.
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No.
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No, I'm kidding.
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But but that's how then yeah, just any type of medicine that's how it works.
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A lot of the time it's like a profit split situation, um, and you have to do your own marketing and all of that.
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And so um, I was gonna join another practice, but I had already set up my location in Scottsdale.
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And essentially they said that their non-compete wouldn't allow me to have that like location and coexist um while working out their practice.
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And so I basically said, I mean, sorry, I know you're probably afraid that I'm gonna steal your patients, but I'm just gonna do my own thing.
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And then slowly but surely I started growing it, and uh then I became a uh clinic director at a uh health optimization practice in Gilbert.
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Um, and that's when I really started learning more about like longevity, peptides, a lot of hormone replacement therapy, and seeing a lot more patients um who are interested in those kinds of treatments, like peri postmenopausal women, um, and really like gathering more expertise in that field.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Just so people know where to find you, where are your practices?
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Yeah.
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Um so currently my practice is uh in Paradise Valley.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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So up in PV Mall.
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Oh, yeah.
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Technically uh Phoenix Zip Code.
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Yeah.
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It's a little confusing because across the street is Scottsdale Zip code.
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Oh awesome, yeah.
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Yeah, Tatum and Shea.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, Tatum and Cactus.
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Yeah.
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It was just there, uh Whole Foods.
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Oh, nice, yeah, it's right across the street.
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Yeah.
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Um what we were picking up chia seeds?
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No.
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There's for the kids.
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It's a bunch of whole foods.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Gotta give them a cross-fed mail.
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How'd you how did you get into the naturopathic like arena or field?
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Yeah.
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So um when I was pre-med over in New Jersey, I went to university at Rutgers and um, you went to school in Jersey.
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Not everybody's Italian.
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This one over here trying to study medicine.
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Um I studied all like the conventional pre-med classes because my full intention was to go to allopathic medical school and like become a surgeon.
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Um, and quickly I realized that that kind of lifestyle was not up my alley.
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It was just too demanding in terms of the training that was involved and the time commitment that was involved as well.
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So good choice.
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Um yes.
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Um, definitely happy that I made that choice.
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Um, and so I wanted to incorporate somehow nutrition and medicine at the same time.
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So I got my master's in clinical nutrition and um, and then I tried to see if I could kind of mesh like allopathic medicine and nutrition together.
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It seemed like it was gonna be a very difficult road if I tried to do that.
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Yeah.
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Um, and so then I tried to look for um like a field of medicine that already incorporated nutrition, and I found naturopathic medicine.
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Um, the closest school was in Connecticut, um, but I ended up kind of relocating to the West.
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Are you from New Jersey or been there?
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Did you go to school in Connecticut?
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Uh no, they had a naturopathic school there, which would have been the closest one to Jersey, and I would have considered going there, but they were revamping their program at the time.
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Yeah.
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So you came out So I came out here, I visited some schools in like San Diego.
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Um, but living in San Diego would have been super expensive at the time.
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That was like 2019.
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Um it's even more expensive now.
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It's even more expensive now.
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I know.
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And at the time you could live with the homeless people though.
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There's a lot of tent.
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That's true.
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If you've got a sturdy tent, you're good.
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I mean, it's nice weather most of the year, so that's something, but um, but yeah, so I thought that the school here in Arizona was definitely more well established.
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Yeah.
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Um they had like a research program, they did a lot with like um botanical medicine, which I'm super into, and um, they had really exceptional training in nutrition.
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Yeah.
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Which school did you go to here?
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Sonoran University of Health Sciences.
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Sorry.
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At that time, it was Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine.
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No, I I think that's that's the good route to take because like you know, if you did family practice in the traditional allopathic way, they kind of cut you short on well, you won't learn nutrition, you won't learn hormones, you won't learn peptides.
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Yeah, and then on top of it, to do it in your practice, it's kind of like fraught upon.
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Where is it well, sort of is like a lot of people are getting into that now, where you know, with the with RFK and stuff, I think uh there's a little more leniency, but you know, uh supposed to do certain things, just the US is very litignous, especially if you carry an MD under your name, so it's a lot harder to run a lot of this stuff.
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So yeah, but for me, like I really got into it, and you know, I just hated like patients coming in, and people would just tell them diet and exercise, and then they're coming to me thinking they're gonna get fat loss with liposuction.
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And I'm like, no, we gotta train you, we gotta get your hormones right, we gotta we gotta get your nutrition right, and these are the things you need to eat, and this is what you need to do for exercise, so you get to good weight that then you can have surgery and look good rather than just doing like surgery and like thank you for your money.
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See you next next week.
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Same way like I've known this guy for 45 years, and I didn't know he knew what litiginous meant.
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Vocabulary word of the day.
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Yeah, I I trained in New York, so you kind of got to know you gotta get verbose.
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Yeah, verbose and okay, verbose.
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Sorry.
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So yeah.
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What was an early like sign of like, oh, this, like, you know, even like us going into medicine, like we really want to go into it.
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And like, what was an early sign of you being like, oh, this is really my shit, like this is what I want to do, yeah, uh, thing like that.
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Um, so growing up like as an immigrant and um going to all of my like grandma's doctor's appointments, Dominican Republic.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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Um, so I had to translate for them at doctors' offices and all these different things.
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And so too young for that, obviously, but I really got exposed to kind of like medical terminology very young.
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Um and when I saw the like doctor-patient interactions that they were having, it was very brief.
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It was really just like a 10-minute visit, um, kind of going over the basics, maybe high and by, listen to heart and lungs, and then kind of calling it a day, prescribing a medication, okay, see you in three months.
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Yeah.
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Um, and it just seemed like more needed to be done.
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Yeah.
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Um, like except a plug in the hole.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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And the hole's leaking.
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Yeah.
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There's other holes.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Um, and so especially when I saw that uh when my grandma first immigrated to this country, like she was fit.
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And as soon as she started consuming an American like standard diet, type 2 diabetes, high cholesterol, hypertension.
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So I'm like, there's gotta be something because she still has good diet habits, but the ecosystem has changed, and there's gotta be like a root cause as to why these things are going on.
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Yeah.
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Um not just that, the simple carbs get simpler.
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Like they there's like you consume that stuff, it's probably worse than alcohol and like whatever is out there.
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Like it's it's I don't know.
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It's we're we're gonna get I promise you within two years we're gonna get type three diabetes.
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I thought that was already and then we're gonna get to like type three, and we're gonna call it triabities.
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Oh gosh.
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Like you're gonna try to get it.
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So I I get it.
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The uh Caribbean diet is carb heavy too.
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It's very starch heavy.
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Um, there's rice, there's beans, there's pasta, there's plantains, um, and it's all on one plate.
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Fried foods too.
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Fried foods too, yeah.
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Also, like the it's lower socioeconomic levels.
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So like I went to St.
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Lucia and they were just like, oh, this highest level of like heart disease, blood pressure, um diabetes, and I order a meal at just like a stand, and it was just like starch, starch, starch, starch, and a couple cubes of chicken as well.
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Oh my goodness.
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This'll this'll just be a little treat, almost like a dessert.
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It's also tough guin the stuff too, though.
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Oh yeah, yeah.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Uh a Caribbean island gifts.
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It's expensive.
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Yeah, I remember I I did med school in St.
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Martin, and when we did a few clinical rotations, like everyone's sugars were like over 200 and blood pressures were like super high, and they're like, Oh yeah, this is their normal.
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They just live their life that yeah.
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They didn't even try to balance it or make it, you know, they were on meds, but they're like, ah, they're they're gonna survive.
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It's asymptomatic too, you know.
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If they don't feel bad, yeah, they probably won't do anything about it.
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And that's I think where a lot of the education that we should be giving is why we should be doing it.
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So, what are you some of your main focuses in your practice?
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Yeah.
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Um, so of course, aesthetics is a big part of that, but I like to do more like regenerative aesthetics, yeah.
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So not relying so much on the conventional injectables that really don't do much for like the skin itself and like regenerating collagen and things like that.
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Yeah.
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Um I know I'm not supposed to ask a woman this, but how old are you?
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I'm 31.
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31.
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Your skin looks fantastic.
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Thank you.
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I invest in it.
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I am a billboard.
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This is marketing.
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Yeah, it definitely is.
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You look great.
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Thank you.
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I'm gonna try and delay Botox as long as I can.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, we're you know, we run a plastic surgery office.
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Do we do fillers?
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Yeah, but we I try to talk people out of fillers.
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The only thing I do fillers is for the nose.
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The rest of it's like either PRP exosomes or fat or is like all we use.
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Like try to stay away from the rest of it.
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Pretty much promoting growth hormones or growth factors, sorry, to you to the areas you want.
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What are some of the things you do in your practice?
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Yeah, so um, at least for the aesthetic side, I do a lot of microneedling.
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Yeah, um, so I also try to learn a lot from um Korean pharmacists and what they do in South Korea, just because they far um lead, you know, the US, outpace the US in terms of like aesthetics and savvy.
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What?
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Maybe kimchi.
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Maybe kimchi.
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That'll be really good for like your intestinal balance and any dysbiosis for sure.
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Um Asians age slower than a lot of races.
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But but the Koreans are even even better.
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They top they top the Japanese and Chinese.
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Yeah, because we we want to like my wife's into it and she wants to bring a whole like Korean skin line to our practice.
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So she identifies as South Korean now.
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Well, she could pass for it.
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Yeah, she couldn't.
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No, no, she doesn't I can't say this, but she's not scorped enough to be Korean.
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But she's got the almond-shaped eyes.
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She's Afghani, but okay, yeah.
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She's close, she's close.
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She's got a mix of all of Asia.
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Like a five-hour road trip basically down there.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, so we went to Spain and there was a store that just sold Korean products.
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Oh, nice.
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And she bought like almost everything in that store to try them out.
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And she she totally loves it.
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Her skin was already great, but like she's always done retin A is like big for her.
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So, yeah, we bought a lot of products from there.
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They got like a lot of things with salmon sperm.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, oh yeah.
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That's what she's trying to do.
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It's trying to bring it.
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Yeah, took out her favorite products to try to bring it from Kur Korea.
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Yeah.
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I've definitely been huge on um like the PDRN.
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Yeah.
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Um, and then that's uh like the salmon sperm DNA.
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Oh, okay.
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I like a specific brand called Redrin.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Um it's pretty high quality, I would say, um, but also rigorously tested.
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And it's been around for a very long time.
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Like they're already injecting this in many countries.
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That's that's approved, but it's not approved for injection.
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Not in the US.
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It's approved for topical skincare, right?
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Yep, it's approved topically.
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Yep.
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So I put it on right after doing microneedling.
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Yeah, Ash was trying to get me to be the ambassador for the current because he he works with one of my friends works with the company, and he was trying to make me.
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Do you think the FDA has a limitation on it has to be this many percent salmon sperm DNA for you to advertise it as that?
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I don't know.
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Or maybe there's another company who wants a similar product, but well, the like you I bet you it's probably your certain companies don't want to be able to do that.
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They'll lose out on a big market.
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Yeah, because it's gonna change like Botox, and like Botox is gonna take a hit from it because people are gonna hit yeah, people are gonna get the collagen, get rid of the wrinkles without like doing Botox.
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And it's regenerative.
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Yeah, you know, your body's doing the work, you're just kind of giving it the stimulus that it needs, the directions that it needs, kind of similar to exosomes.
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Yeah, it's like caveat to your face.
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Exactly.