WHAT MR. BEAST TAUGHT ME ABOUT CONTENT (AND LONGEVITY)

Meet Alex And His Three Worlds

SPEAKER_03 0:19

All right, so we're here with Alex. Why don't you introduce yourself and what you do, and we'll dive in a little deeper.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

My pleasure. Yeah. Thank you guys for having me so much. I'm excited. Um, like you said, my name's Alex. Um, I go by Arizona Jones online because I love cowboy stuff, as you can probably tell. I'm a weird hybrid of animal rescue, longevity, and health tech, and uh some kind of uh Lego toy adventures out there on social media. So I've found a weird way to marry those three non uh non-cohesive things. Yeah. And that's kind of my whole life right now.

SPEAKER_03 0:51

Do you find some connection between those three that kind of fit?

SPEAKER_01 0:57

Uh unintentionally, yes, which was um a toy hobby, which uh while I was working with um, you know, sort of a job to pay the bills that then led me to a different job in the health tech space. And uh, you know, I happened to cross some animals. That's a separate story for another day. And uh the philosophy in this health tech company was wanting 10 more good years of your life, right? And so I started looking at these hobbies that I was capturing. I was like, well, yeah, I want 10 more years to rescue animals, I want 10 more years to play with Legos, that's awesome. So I sort of built this uh this framework around, you know, 10 more years to play in love, you know. So that's kind of how I've

Spotlighting Local Lego Reseller Shops

SPEAKER_01 1:32

started making content out there these days. Gotcha. That's the that's the social media life.

SPEAKER_03 1:36

Yeah, that's not real life, but what kind of Lego stuff do you build?

SPEAKER_01 1:39

Or uh right now I'm on this mission. There was a big controversy with that uh bricks and minifigs YouTuber situation that happened.

SPEAKER_03 1:46

And we can go anything in the bottom, but I I'd love to know about that.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

Yeah, I can give you summary. It's it's a long rabbit hole I won't bore you with. But um, I travel around and I find local family-owned businesses that resell Legos and I highlight them and try to give them a spotlight because there's some big corporations out there that really have kind of a monopoly on the space. And so I go out and I meet with the owners and show what they do for their business. Yeah, and so it takes me all over the country. But that's the hobby job.

SPEAKER_03 2:12

And then you try to rip them off for good use sets.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

No, that job, you know, I'll buy something while I'm here, you know. It's it's all works out.

SPEAKER_02 2:19

So yeah, so so my son, he's five. He's like, I think he might be the only person into the up movie as much as I don't know. I love that movie so but like he's like all about the up house, and like I think the new Lego set, it just falls apart. Yeah, I've seen that for a five-year-old. Like, I put it together and like 10 minutes later it's falling apart. The first set I got them, I actually super glued together. It's smart. So it didn't fall, but it eventually after enough falls, it falls apart. So it's probably one better better off to the shelf than the plot. Yeah, so I I actually like started searching YouTube, and like, yeah, there's these people that like make videos of like how to make them sturdier and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

Yeah, I still I'm still kind of new to that space. It's uh you know, I won't bore you with the whole journey, but uh that I've gotten into in the last year after the animal thing, and it's crazy. People are so creative, they come up with so much stuff there. People engineer like motorized mechanical parade floats and stuff. It's insane, way beyond me.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

But I just like uh and the app helps you, like the bricks app helps you like build a lot of stuff, right?

SPEAKER_01 3:28

Yeah, so you can do like uh you can design your own sets now and everything. There's like a 3D designer program, you can sit in there and you know do what I uh my my main job is in you know longevity tech. We can get into that in a minute. But um, you know, there was one I saw as like a like an MRI machine, you know. It was like this like really coveted set that's like super rare. I was like, I wanted to get it for uh somebody over at Simon Bed, so I found it at the store. I was like, how much is that? Oh, that's like 1200 bucks. I was like, okay, no, I'm good. No, very cool. I'm good. Thank you, though.

SPEAKER_03 3:54

Yeah, you're gonna probably find a buyer for 1500 bucks. Uh wanted to flip it. Yeah. No, my daughter's like she loved Legos when she was like five. She's like 14 now, but yeah, it's more Legos. It's not, it's nothing that's like died down at all, but it's all random stuff. And I used to get her the snow globes from all the cities I went to. Yeah. But like if they have uh I think it's like Legos postcards. Yep. So it's just like the cityscape. Yeah. So I my last trip this weekend was to New York City. She was like, Can you please try to find the New York City postcards? Um, so that was the first thing I did. I landed, got dropped my bags off, and went right to the Lego store. That's great.

SPEAKER_01 4:43

Wait, if you flew into JFK, it's probably pretty easy then, right? Because they got one in the airport. I didn't go in the airport. Oh, gotcha. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 4:49

Went to the one on Fifth Avenue. Um thank God I went when I did, uh, because I looked at the store the next day and the line was around the corner. I was like, holy crap. It's nuts. Yeah, it's nuts. It's good I got it.

SPEAKER_01 5:03

But yeah. Oh yeah, that's the Lego section. I think there's probably a little more overlap, it seems like, with uh probably the medical space, I would imagine. No, we're gonna stick with Lego. Okay, that's a whole hour. I can go Lego the whole hour. Don't challenge me. That's fine. I'm down.

Cascade And The Longevity Tech Mission

SPEAKER_03 5:17

So what do you do in MedTech? You work with Simon Med, they're an imaging firm.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

Uh, so we I actually work for a company called Cascade. So I'm their head of uh content and marketing. Um, so I help lead the company with you know how we're telling the story and building content. And we have this ecosystem of really trying to highlight medical experts that we're building this network of um to bring this philosophy to life that we can help patients get, you know, 10 more good years of living. And uh, you know, that's that's this very short abridged version, right? Because I uh I'm not a doctor. So I know there's a lot of things like regulatory that you know, you don't want to say, we can give you this. It's like, you know, I'm still learning all the time.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

What's in the ecosystem? Like what can people get? Like choosing something like that.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

The approach we try to take is um there's no one size fits all, as I'm sure you guys know, right? It's not you know, one patient isn't gonna always have the same needs if it's gonna all be based on like their goals, right? So do they want to perform better at work? Do they want to change their physique? Do they want to just live better longer when they're 80 years old? Do they want to not have trouble taking the luggage out of the overhead compartment? Right? What is your main goal? And from there, we'll have a wide library of offerings from personalized coaching, you know, everything from resistance training to, you know, specialized packages with guidance on supplements, dietary um I'm gonna butcher the phrase, which is not good, but um, like nutrition guidance and dietary guidance, things like that. And then of course, you know, the things you see in every um, you know, like longevity space, right? Like DEXA scan, imaging, CT, MRI, things like that. So kind of the the full gamut so they can get a baseline of their health and see what they need with a turn-by-turn plan for how to get to their goal.

SPEAKER_03 6:52

And measure those outcomes.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Exactly. Very data driven. So that's not just uh, you know, like these fad-based things where it's like, you know, take this and you'll be fine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

And so you guys are doing genetic uh testing or plan on doing all that.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

Yeah, that's one of the offerings we have is you can do genetic testing to see, you know, if you have certain genes that you know affect your immune system, your likelihood for cancer, things like that.

SPEAKER_02 7:17

Okay. And then the other thing, like, are you guys gonna be offering something like you know, the full body MRI, which a lot of people can like keep on asking me about? Yeah, yeah, full body scans.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Yeah, so we are, and we're actually uh so we're partnered with Simon Med. Um and that's um we're in this building where Simon Med's gonna be right next to us in the building. So patients will be able to just walk through a door and go, you know, get MRI. Yeah, yeah, so be good.

SPEAKER_03 7:43

But what's the cardiac scan that's been like the rage

Genetic Testing And Full Body Scans

SPEAKER_03 7:48

now? Yeah, like LCM.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

Yeah, CCTA. Yeah, yeah. I see a lot of a lot of buzz about CCTA. People don't get that. So I went and got one done. I thought it was great, that was cool. You know, I'm only 34, so I sound a little on the young side, but still nice to have the peace of mind. I don't know, yeah, didn't have any issue with it.

SPEAKER_00 8:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

So but I do a lot of I'll test anything on myself. I I hear one of you is like that too, but yeah, I didn't, you know, yeah. That's also outside of work and not sanctioned, but you know.

SPEAKER_03 8:13

Have you done one?

SPEAKER_02 8:15

No, I haven't. Um I haven't seen the need, you know. I don't have chest pain. My cholesterol's been pretty good and like no family history. Like my cholesterol's always been high, but if I had more of a family history, I would definitely like go and get it chucked.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

Yeah, yeah.

Testosterone Myths And Heart Risk

SPEAKER_01 8:35

You know, I just take some testosterone, so that's why I'm like, no, that can increase your risk, apparently.

SPEAKER_02 8:40

So no, it can't. That's a lie.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

Is it what they tell you? Yeah, okay. Well, I bought the lie, I guess. Don't let me do the marketing for that one.

SPEAKER_02 8:46

Yeah, no, New York studies, you know, it people taking test endogenous testosterone, there's no increase risk. Yeah, versus placebo. Yeah. Yeah, there there's studies out there. I I know they, you know, whatever it was, like they they put that warning on the label on testosterone. Yeah, but that's not true. I was actually like some guy actually brought it up um uh on uh what is it? I was like watching YouTube reels and like some guy was talking about it. But like that's you know, I've been to a lot of conferences and stuff, and you know, with some of it's biased with longevity medicine, you know, like you gotta figure out who to trust and because there's a lot of bias going behind it. But for for the most part, like low testosterone can be like just worse for you than uh, you know, like with normal levels of testosterone, you're gonna be that's gonna be more cardioprotective because you're gonna build the muscle, get rid of the visceral fat and stuff, so and overall better strength, bone density. So that's gonna be more cardioprotective for you than uh low having low low testosterone levels.

HGH, IGF-1, And Real Tradeoffs

SPEAKER_02 10:08

How about growth hormone? Growth hormone, so so growth hormone can't be stated as being a longevity medicine because increased growth hormone over a lifetime, it's gonna uh decrease the years of life you have. Uh so but like you know, this microdosing and stuff, but it it's all about like the quality of the the life you want to live, you know, like you don't care about living to 150, but you you want to, you know, be healthy, like look young, uh, you know, be lean. And growth hormone will do that that for you. Um, you know, low low doses because you go higher doses, you're gonna uh and like it's kind of the like the microdosing thing. If you go higher doses, you're gonna start overgrowing a lot of things. And that's you know, when people look at like they say bodybuilders or like football players that die early, they use growth hormone and stuff. That's more from you know, like overuse where they're getting the cardiomegaly and uh stuff from just overgrowth. And like when I took it, like you know, when I took a higher dose, my like carpal tunnel would come around. Oh, right. Uh oh yeah, you you start to feel some joint pains too because your bones start growing and you can totally feel it.

SPEAKER_03 11:37

Yeah, and you retain water too, so yeah, so you just kind of expand in general, then your body's like pretty efficient in the way you've evolved, so like all those little tunnels and stuff where the nerves run into, yeah. Like if you have overgrowth of the bone or any part of that tissue, it's gonna compress the nerves.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

So but at low doses, I never had the issue. I'm talking about like I would take like two or three units. Um but but we were also discussing that like today. I was with my nurse practitioner and someone we know just had a stroke, and uh we're discussing like what to do as you know, nerve protection. Uh try to, you know, this is someone that like money doesn't really matter to him. He just wants he's flaccid on one side, uh pretty much paralyzed on the one side. So is is he gonna regain, you know, uh strength in that arm? Likelihood hard to tell. Um, and if he does, whether was it like using growth hormone or not? But we're talking about whether, you know, giving him growth hormone versus some of the other forms. Like, I don't think the peptides are gonna be as neuroprotective as like you know, IgF1, which is just gonna signal the IGF. Um it's gonna be helpful, but your best bets, you know, usually for neuroprotection and recovery and rehabs, probably growth hormones are uh good. No scientific evidence behind it, but uh it is pretty good to try for some neural regeneration, you know. Um, especially if you know some people like they have more spinal core cord injuries. I think it um it can help them out with uh some of the recovery.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

Don't mind me asking what um I just because I had someone actually call me yesterday, very out of left field, um, and he uh he's an older gentleman and he's thinking about deciding between testosterone or HGH if he is having a hard time building muscle. And I told him, I was like, I don't know. I mean I've taken testosterone, not HGH.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

Starting out, yeah, starting out, I would start with well, you you gotta do lab tests and see what's what's deficient. So if their testosterone's low, uh replenishing that testosterone uh to normal levels would be probably the best thing. And you know, normal levels, what are those seven seven hundred to twelve hundred? Um it's a wide range. And if you get or not Simon Med, it's Sonora Quest labs, it's like 250 to 1200, which um yeah, if you're like I I think for me, I'm like 900 to 1200's a good range for exactly where I try to stay. Yeah, anything higher than that, um it it starts to you start to have like I think I start dumping estrogen out. Um, whether that's true or not. I just you know, I kind of feel the symptoms, like where you'll feel a little more anxious and you feel like your wife almost.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

Yeah, you feel a little more reactive, a little twitchy. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

Yeah, yeah. Because like when it's normal, you're like more confidence, more clear headed, you get great sleep, but once it dumps over, it I think the sleep goes down, you're not as clear headed, you get very anxious. Yeah, um, so it changes. So testosterone would be first, but and you can test, see what your IgF levels are, and then you know, both of them together synergistically, I think they work great, but start out with testosterone and then because HGH is harder to get to. That's fair. So that's fair. And anyone that has cancer, I would definitely not try also very true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:35

Um in that scenario, like what would you recommend? What would be like HGH uh receptor binding protein or like with for a stroke or yeah? No, the stroke you said it was just direct to HGH. Oh, but if someone like looking at those muscle mass, like say their testosterone levels optimize.

SPEAKER_02 15:55

Yeah, so yeah, you could start uh, you know, CJC epimorlin or uh tesmorlin, you know, you're gonna get some gains, it's not gonna be as

Peptides For Muscle, Fat, And Appetite

SPEAKER_02 16:05

good as HEH.

SPEAKER_03 16:07

So how about side effect-wise?

SPEAKER_02 16:10

The side effect, you know, peptides, you're almost not gonna have much of a side effect. Um, especially with CJ, well, CJC epimorlin, you get the CJC, you get the the flushing, which a lot of people can't stand. Um and it can be pretty bad. Uh which I've been taking tesamorin for a while. Um, so tesamorlin doesn't cause that flushing. So I take the tesamorlin, epimorlin blend. Um, but CJC epimorin is supposed to be better if you're trying to build muscle. Tesamorin is better if you're trying to uh you know lean lean out. Um it's stronger at like getting rid of visceral fat and lean muscle mass.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

I just learned something. I'm I'm gonna change my stack when I get home tonight then, because I'm doing CJC and TESSA. Yeah. And uh the visceral fat has been great. I've lost like seven percent visceral fat has been phenomenal.

SPEAKER_02 17:04

Yeah, uh so C CJC and TESSA hit like they're the same, or they this would have to be factored. Either they're both the growth hormone releasing peptide or growth releasing uh hormone. Yeah, I know they hit the same something. I don't know what you would know about the meat. They're they're two of the same, the ipamorlins that yeah, you want you want to put ipamorlin on there. Like for a little while I took this stack of four blend, but it made me so hungry. I was like, Oh really? I think it had like a GHRP2 um receptor Agnes, which make gives you hunger. Yeah, interesting.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Were you taking like a red or anything on that too? Or yeah, it still like yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

Oh wow, interesting. Was super hungry. Yeah, just like when I took ibutamorin, ibutamorin like is oral form. Um it you know, you can build good mass, and I've had like young girls who are almost anorexic gain weight on it. So um it's good if you want to build lean muscle mass and you're like you don't eat, but if you're trying to build lean muscle mass um and you're of size, it's you're gonna just continuously eat. So that's good to know. Yeah, like HEH, you're gonna have, you know, like at high doses. If you take appropriate doses, it's gonna be fine. But if you take high doses, and that's what people get get, you know, right comments get pissed off. Like HEH is a great thing, but if you're taking it uh abnormal doses, um, yeah, you're gonna get the swelling. You could get carpal tunnel. I use my hands a lot, so again, anything and like carpal tunnel comes pretty easily. Um the swelling, I you could go, you know, uh your glucose control could be all over the place, which a lot of people nowadays in the bodybuilding industry and stuff, they're mixing in Reddit along with that, especially on TikTok and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 19:08

Obviously, uh yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 19:10

Reddit's great, it's not FDA approved.

SPEAKER_03 19:13

Have you guys seen any uh anything like personally anecdotally

Retatrutide And GLP-1 Cautionary Tales

SPEAKER_03 19:20

about like down like side effects from Reddit true tide?

SPEAKER_01 19:25

I I stopped caring about just about anything when I when I got too high on that, um, which wasn't terrible. I was kind of focused a lot more. Um so that I kind of say that a little bit in jest. I'd say the only thing I really only I love Retta personally. My experiences on it have been phenomenal. I was somebody who um I would I could eat a full breakfast at 9 a.m., two pieces of toast, two eggs, two whole things of yogurt, and I am starving by 11, 11:30. Like there's just something, and that was pretty crippling in like a lot of the work stuff I would do back in like my production days. Um, Retta just has turned that off. So like I can go into a normal lunchtime now and feel like a normal human. So I I personally love it. My only really horror story with it, I can't for sure say it was because of it, but I either got like a food poisoning the first time I tried to smoke some shrimp and they weren't fully cooked, and I was not okay for like four or four four or five days. And the after going to urgent care and stuff, the conclusion was really like it feels like a prolonged food poisoning.

SPEAKER_03 20:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

And some folks had said, like, well, if you get a GI issue on RETA, maybe it can be extended. I don't know if that wasn't verified by any doctors, but some folks were saying that online. It makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 20:36

Well, they the reason they would say it, it slows down your gut, so you're not pushing out that vector. But but like, I I think if you take some BPC and drink your kombucha or you know, I I think you pass that. Yeah, push it out, right?

SPEAKER_01 20:50

So I said it's probably like a stomach flu or something, but but yeah, so five days is a long time though for a stomach flu. Yeah. I mean, I was Were you eating Taco Bell? Uh you know, I thought that I had to think back. I was like, do I have any damn lettuce? I have lettuce anywhere. Yeah, but no, no, I uh didn't have any.

SPEAKER_03 21:07

I had a friend that tried it once, and he said the first time he took it, he didn't sleep for three days.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

Well, I I can tell you when I first did Redda, I so this was a don't try it at home and me on my personal time, right? I was using AI to figure out like how to dose it and stuff. So and it told me it's like, yeah, you know, start at 0.5. So I was like, okay, great. Well, so I started on Monday.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:29

And then I took another 0.5 on Tuesday. And I took another point five because I thought it meant daily. Oh, okay. So I'm six days in and I'm like, I don't, I don't feel good. Like it's like I'm delusional. Like every, I'm kind of like, I just feel like weak. I feel like I'm kind of like, I feel like I'm gonna pass out. Like, I need more energy. Yeah. I was like, should I do today's pin? Something's happening. And then I looked and I posted on Reddit. I was like, guys, I feel really weird. Is this normal? And they were like, How long have you been taking 0.5 every day? I was like, about Week now they're like, dude, stop.

SPEAKER_03 22:02

Yeah. It's funny. It's it's not just you. I'm in a like some physician group on Facebook. Yeah. Those physicians. It's crazy. They've been doing the thing. They're like, I don't know. I stepped up to this dose. And it's just like Yeah, you've had all these problems.

SPEAKER_02 22:22

They're like, I got on semaglutide like way early. Okay. And like I have a similar story, but like I used to sit in the doctor's lounge, and like these people would be like, you know, this is like me taking it for like two years, three years. Yeah. And these people are like, they're like all excited about it. I'm like, this has been around for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You already got coupon days. I got it for 25, 25. Yeah, really?

SPEAKER_01 22:50

Yeah. Now we got the the index has gone way.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

You know, like throughout my life, like I I experimented with a lot of stuff with with nutrition supplements, like you know, diet pills, uh like diets. And you know, like I was pretty immune to like whatever diet pills. There, there's once in a while you'd get something, and then it would, you know, like a few months later it gets taken off the market, and you're like, that shit had like pretty much like meth in there, you know.

SPEAKER_01 23:20

Yeah, yeah. So that's how it was burning the calories.

SPEAKER_02 23:24

No wonder I was jittery.

SPEAKER_03 23:26

Yeah, yeah. You don't need glycogen if you get meth.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

So once I got my hands on semglutide, I'm like, I'll just take the highest dose. So he did. I got the 2.4 milligram pen. Oh no. Is it yeah, yeah, and I injected it and like and he came into the OR.

SPEAKER_03 23:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

Oh, it's like something feels wrong. I'll be back. Yeah, I finished closing, closing up the breast, and like breast reductions, they freaking smell because you're using cautery, even when you use nowadays, you gotta use smoky vac to suck up the smoke. It's still it still smells horrible. And like it was just like something, it just made me super nauseous. I walked out, I projectile vomited, and then you know, I I still didn't get it. I was like, all right, what's going on? I went home. My wife asked me to go and grab something. I I went, I bent down and I started projectile vomiting again. And my parents were watching my kids. Yeah, my mom comes out and she's like, What's wrong with you? I was like, Oh, I think I got free. Because I had I had like a I had a tuna melt sandwich or a tuna sandwich that day.

SPEAKER_03 24:46

And do you remember it was just like a half a sandwich because I was like, I got no, I I remember you at the OR, you were like sweating bullets, and you're like, something's not I don't feel good. And you're like, I'll be back.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

Yeah, it's gonna be the tuna, not that thing I just posed.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Yeah, it was like I thought I'd a day before or a couple days before. I I forget. And like yeah, I was like I was nauseous that entire, but like when I started out some glutide, uh, you know, I went back to the lowest dose. I would get the sulfur burps, and those were just fucking nasty. Yeah, like I haven't gotten it with the others, but um you eating a lot of eggs? No, it you just get sulfur burps, and you gotta take um gastric enzymes until your body gets used to it to kind of break it down. Yeah, interesting. Okay, yeah, and carried a bunch of gastric enzymes.

SPEAKER_03 25:46

I used to get a lot of sulfur burps during residency because it would just like try to hammer down the breakfast of champions, which is like three hard-boiled eggs and a monster energy drink, and then like the whole time, the whole day, like just burping into the mask, and like, oh my god, this is what I smell like to other people.

SPEAKER_02 26:05

So, with Reddit, a lot of people are talking about like injecting twice a week instead of once a week. Um, you know, it's not FDA approved, so you shouldn't be saying that we injected it all.

SPEAKER_01 26:19

Um you guys don't have to, I can, right?

SPEAKER_02 26:21

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:22

Put on your hat. Um, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

This is not work affiliated as I'm the while was pestiged, right? Yeah, what was my name again? Yeah. Um no, it it's great. I I wonder when it is gonna get approved. It's like when Eli Lilly figures out a way that you know where compomp pharmacies can't make it, right? Um, which I I don't know. I was reading something about like how it's 39 amino acids, so it's not long enough to become a biologic.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

So if you but they're still pushing it, apparently, to make it a butt, right? Aren't they trying to do it? They're going to try to. Oh, they were going to? Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:00

Just to get the patent on it.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

Just to get the patent right, of course, right? Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 27:04

So I I can't wait for that 40th amino acid. That's gonna really make it change.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

It's gonna change everything, it's gonna change the game. Yeah. We just need one more. Then we'll all be jacked, hot, young, everything else will be perfect.

SPEAKER_03 27:19

Can't have our mRNAs working that hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:25

But like the the growth hormone stuff, uh definitely something like you know, people should have on the back burner with any of the GLP ones. Yeah, like it's good to have to not lose any muscle mass while you're taking it, especially when you get to the higher doses. Like you'll notice a lot of drop of weight, but you definitely lose a lot of muscle mass.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

Yeah, yeah. I might I've I've been considering adding it because I I have a really hard time with some things because of working out, I get some weird like breathing thing, like halfway through a workout. I don't know what the hell it is, but what do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 27:57

Do you have like exercise induced asthma?

SPEAKER_01 28:00

I think it must be, but like I I train with a personal trainer and like it's like 30 minutes on the mark. I start like gagging and getting like mucus, and like I can't breathe as well. It's it's so annoying. And so I'm like trying to figure out what that is. But after I solve that, I've been thinking I want to do like add a little bit of HGH or something in because I was able to lose like 20 pounds thanks to Reddit, and only I think three of it was muscle. But yeah, now I'm just now I'm just built like gumby, you know. So now I'd like to fill out a little bit more, you know. But yeah, I gotta solve that first. So we'll see.

SPEAKER_02 28:30

Yeah, either the CJC. If you get the flesh in with the CJC, the tes of moral line and put them all on.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

Yeah, I do only after the injection, I don't really mind it to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

It's just yeah, it's just quick because you yeah, you look at your like I would get it. I didn't know if it was from that because I took so much other stuff. Yeah, I thought it was the NAD.

SPEAKER_01 28:50

Well, it took me minutes to know, but I I I live on a farm out in Whitman, so it's like I uh I could have guessed that with the way you're dressed.

SPEAKER_03 28:59

Shocking.

SPEAKER_00 28:59

Shocking.

SPEAKER_01 29:00

I know, I know. You would not put me there, I'm sure. But I I didn't notice it for like the first week I was doing it because I would I take my shower after walking out from being inside like out with the animals all day and um or afternoon, and I would just think I was getting like a hot flash or something from being out in the heat. I was like, oh man, and drink more water or something. I was out there too long, and then I'd change it and did it at night once. I was like, oh shit, that's that's this stuff. It's not so I didn't even really notice it. And yeah, it's not a bad side effect.

SPEAKER_03 29:26

It's a little yeah, that that's the thing, especially if you're not doing crazy doses like you'll see.

SPEAKER_02 29:31

It's better than nausea because like I take melanetin like once a week, and that shit just makes me nauseous. Yeah, and you just feel like shit. And then I've done um oxytocin injection instead of the nasal spray. And oh, interesting. That I felt like I was dying. Really? Oh, yeah. How come? Like in what way? Uh I don't know. Like just being hard stuff to do it. And it was it was just like low dose. Um and I injected and I was like, what the f like I I I think the vision got blurry, kind of got lightheaded, geez stuff. Um just like you can't see. I was like, what I was like, it's oxytocin, it's not supposed to do that. I don't know, it just like totally got me. I was like interesting, yeah. Okay, well, but I talked to another guy and he said the same thing happened to him. So some sometimes I was like science. Sometimes that's dude science right there. That's dude science. Sometimes some of these things have like weird, like I was talking to my friend about Retta, and he's he says like Retta and Terzeptide, he gets like all over his body, he gets this burning sensation, like, and it doesn't stop. And he that he can't take Retta and Terzeptide because it's like it's such a bad burning pain.

SPEAKER_03 30:54

It's probably something that's in the mixture, or to um if it's ter's and reta, it's kind of what what do they use to make it last longer in the bloodstream so your body doesn't break it down? Um that that component is probably what's causing it because I think that's similar in both of them.

SPEAKER_01 31:16

Yeah, I don't know. I did not react well to his epite, semaglutide. I tried one of the GLP ones and then I felt sick on that, but did not feel good. Nauseous or yeah, it's like nauseous, and I'm just like it's hard to describe it. I I felt like I knew I knew I was hungry, but I didn't have the hunger signals. Yeah, but I started getting like hangry and kind of irritable. And then I would eat like, oh, I was like starving. But it made me feel like sick or something. And it's just weird. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 31:40

I almost went down for the count this weekend and realized it was just like, oh I didn't have that urge to consume anything. It was like 7 p.m. And then I'm like, oh, I just had like the whole day, I only things I consumed were three alcoholic beverages, a chicken parm sandwich, and and like five caffeinated beverages. And I was like, Oh, I forgot to drink water. I literally like, thank god my friend

Hydration, Caffeine, And Missing Hunger

SPEAKER_03 32:10

was there. I was like kind of playing rope dope against Joe Frazier, and I didn't have anybody fighting against me. But that was actually scary because it's just like he's looking at me, he's like, You look dizzy. Oh no, really. Did you drink today? I'm like, no, man, we've been hanging out, and it's it's like this doesn't look good, yeah, yeah. But yeah, I got so like sat down and had like three bottles of water, and I was like, Okay, I'm I'm fine. It's it's okay.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

That's the toughest thing when you're awake because at home, it's like you get like I get up and I have my glasses of water and stuff. It's yeah, you know, when you have filtered water at home, like when you're away, it's like a constant problem running out of water and then drinking.

SPEAKER_03 32:59

Yeah, you have to actually actively seek it out, right? Like go buy a bottle of water to drink it.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

Yeah, all the way down the lobby.

SPEAKER_03 33:06

Yeah, I can buy this bottle of water or I can have this sugar-free red bread. Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

Yeah, yeah. And I usually when I go away, I drink a lot of like caffeine. Just I I don't drink, so I drink caffeine instead. Like I'll have like 10 espresso shots a day. I'm the same as you.

SPEAKER_01 33:24

I don't I don't drink and I but at caffeine is my my vice.

SPEAKER_02 33:27

Yeah, I'm like, oh, I want to try that coffee and that coffee.

SPEAKER_01 33:31

Do both espresso martinis all day.

SPEAKER_03 33:35

Oh my god, on red a truth. Oh no, get nauseated on espresso martinis. That would that sound like heaven.

SPEAKER_01 33:44

Oh metabolism just like screaming. That's crazy. They never tasted good.

SPEAKER_03 33:50

No, no, it's too much sugar, and just not a good not a drink of choice ever.

SPEAKER_01 33:55

Can't say I know them that well, so maybe it was uh maybe it was a bad example, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:00

I I mainly take like I might have taken like two sips. I've never actually ordered one. Yeah, like I've tried it.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

I've been sitting next to someone who ordered them like, oh, coffee, nice.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

I'm uh actually Montauk over here. It wasn't espresso martini, but they had this coffee drink that was really good.

SPEAKER_03 34:20

I forgot you made that coffee drink uh in Costa Rica.

SPEAKER_02 34:24

Oh, that was that thing death wish.

SPEAKER_03 34:26

Holy crap! It actually tasted awesome. Like, I don't order any type of coffee alcoholic drink, but he made like a pot of Costa Rican hot brew. I don't know what you put in that thing. It tasted great. I forget what I and me, him, my other brother, and somebody else just like pounded it, and then we were wired to like yeah, we were we went to bed late, and then the next day I got up, it was just like like I got zero sleep, and the whole time I'm thinking, like, just super anxiety, like what if there's a mudslide and this whole house collapses and stuff. I got up like like I went to I I went into the living area like this, like holy crap, I'm still buzzed from the coffee and like the alcohol's worn off and this like super anxious. I was like, I don't know about you guys. Uh, did you have any trouble sleeping last night? I was like, oh yeah, I didn't sleep at all. Yeah, I didn't sleep at all.

SPEAKER_02 35:33

Like did we get any specialty alcohol? I forget.

SPEAKER_03 35:39

I don't know if it was rum, whatever you made, it tasted delicious because we were just like, all right. Uh and I'm not a huge strong alcoholic drink. Yeah, like that one's like bottom of the list, and then below that's like like a dairy alcoholic drink. I don't know, like a white Russian hub. I've watched people do that. I'm like, I'm not drinking anymore. No chance, no chance. Uh that's just looks like it's just gross, like curdled milk or something.

SPEAKER_01 36:07

Yeah, it's great. Like vomit on the way out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:10

Oh god.

SPEAKER_02 36:11

So with the Cascade, like where were we at the process

From Hollywood Hustle To MrBeast

SPEAKER_02 36:15

of like, you know?

SPEAKER_01 36:17

Well, I have to be careful now how much I talk about Cascade because we aren't doing any of the things that I do personally.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

So no, I know.

SPEAKER_01 36:23

So yeah, so I want to be I want to be super clear, like all the stuff we've been talking about, like peptides that that's just like my own recreational exploration. We don't allow it to be a good idea. Come to catch an eye for growth hormone. Yeah, no, no, no, no. So I gotta be a little careful going too much more into the work thing.

SPEAKER_02 36:36

Is that your pilot place you're gonna have in Scottsdale?

SPEAKER_01 36:40

Yeah, so that'll be our pilot longevity center up in Scottsdale at uh Dr. August building. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:45

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 36:45

But you're gonna compete with like because uh 10X is a 10x health has very similar format.

SPEAKER_01 36:52

There's a few that have similar format. We're trying to take more of a like hands-on approach to um like you know, they have shorts, yeah, like to diagnostics and then like more being there with you with a plan and being there like turn by turn guidance so that you know it's not just uh you know, here's your subscription, what you get with your subscription, and you know, come in whenever you want and then you're done, right? It's kind of like you know, checking in with you, seeing how things are going, you feel closer to your goals, doing follow-up assessments every so many days, things like that. So really trying to dial in. If you said you want to be here in this much time, are you on that journey, right?

SPEAKER_02 37:27

So and I know Dr. Aga is on there, but what types of physicians do you have like working with the guests?

SPEAKER_01 37:33

They have a ton of uh physicians on there. There's gosh, we've got muscle physiologists, oncologists, nutritionists, obgyns. Um I mean, they've got a long list of people that are very impressive that are way smarter than me, and people who would probably be mortified to hear me talking about peptides and stuff. So um they're gonna be fine. Yeah, more 500 viewers will tell them. No, no, I no, no, I mean in general. They're you know, they're all way smarter than me, and they they've got titles I don't even know what they mean. So yeah, but yeah, no, very uh, very long rollidex of experts there for sure.

SPEAKER_03 38:06

All right. So, what's your production background? It's good you give us that advice. It's not the five minutes.

SPEAKER_01 38:12

I gave you like a terrible, like looking back, it's like I gave you a terrible like uh cocktail of things to pick from for what to talk about here.

SPEAKER_03 38:18

I was like, yeah, I will put this at the front of an episode.

SPEAKER_01 38:21

I'll do the tail slate and do the intro now. Yeah, I'll do origin story.

SPEAKER_03 38:25

Let's get into your production background.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

Yeah. Uh so I'm uh I said I'm a beauty school dropout. I dropped out of college at like 18 years old. Uh, went to ASU for like a year and then fucked off to Hollywood thinking I'd be be an actor. I got super duper lucky after I moved to LA and I booked like two national commercials right off the bat. So my 18-year-old ignorant self is like, oh, this is easy. This is great. This is what are people talking about? Yeah, this is the beginning. What do you say this is hard? I had no idea the odds that I had had to do that, and then then it started to sink in, you know, that it was like, oh, this is a this is what they're talking about. Okay, let me go work bar back for a little bit here. But um, I'll give you sort of the abridged version. But basically, I uh saw this Emmy big accredited producer guy streaming on uh Periscope, if you remember that app back in the day, like maybe 15 years ago. Yeah. Uh Twitter bought it, it was like a live stream app for a hot minute. And he uh he was like, Hey, I'm taking TV show ideas. I'm telling you how to make a TV show. It's like, you know, send here's my address, you know, send them in. I was like, Well, shit, I want to be a TV producer. So I took his address and I went down to his office. I knocked on his door. I was like, hey, listen, don't close the door in my face. I'll work for you for free if you teach me to be where you're at someday. And he did not slam the door in my face. And I went in to work for him for free for almost two years, worked barbacks at nights, and he put me in these crazy awesome scenarios. Like, I'm like 19, 20 years old, working on like ESPN shows and Disney shows and stuff. I'm sitting there like, oh my god, you know, I'm like fanboying over half the people around me, and he's like, you know, have to like elbow me. He's like, You don't do that when you're working here, like you don't, it's not how you care yourself. Uh, but it was super cool. It was a whirlwind. It was uh, you know, shout out Neil Mann. That he took me, he was a uh, you know, father to me. He was amazing. And um, I pr continued to be a producer and TV for like, gosh, probably six years under him after that. Um, finally put me on payroll, so that was good. But uh from there, really saw the industry changing and how you know modern media was turning into YouTube, Instagram, vertical, short form, etc. And uh made a hard pivot into like YouTube and trying to get in with like YouTubers and you know, folks that were pioneering this space of put a camera on your desk and you know, somehow end up a name on television. Um, and then yeah, the uh the abridged version there is just one thing led to another. I can I can say the following sentence, which is uh I then went on to work for Mr. Beast. That's what's highlighted in my MDAs that I can say, and then uh from there just uh try to build this ecosystem machine where no matter what the topic is for content, whether it's you know more dry medical stuff or no offense. Dry medical stuff. You know, no offense, but um, you know, something that the topic is inherently the audience needs to have some subject matter expertise to understand, to still be engaged with it. You know, you can really do that in a way that captures them because now there's a formula, right? Which is vertical short form, hook, you know, three seconds in change, visual pop-up, like that sort of thing. Yeah, and now I I do that full time, and I, you know, I try to tell stories that way for doctors, providers, clinicians, you know, companies, things like that. And uh I'm rambling too long, so I'll shut up here. Oh, yeah, it's all good. Yeah, I was saying my my mouth is getting dry. I know I've talked too long.

SPEAKER_02 41:34

So it's all good. No, it's good. Yeah, we're trying to be like the Dr. Mike podcast.

SPEAKER_01 41:39

There you go. Okay, yeah. I'm just kidding. Hey, I don't knock the inspiration. I mean, we all have our inspiration.

SPEAKER_03 41:46

We should change our branding to dry mouth podcasts. Yeah. Talk so much.

SPEAKER_01 41:55

I think that's just that's just podcasts, though, right? Yeah, I think that's just that's the nature of it. But so yeah, so I you know, I take that and I whether it's an independent clinician or you know, a company

The In-House Content Engine Model

SPEAKER_01 42:05

that does imaging or you know, longevity or something like that, we try to take that machine and like, okay, you know, put your doctors in here, we'll talk about this, and then we'll kick out these pieces and do this edit treatment and make it trendy, you know. So need some trendy shit.

SPEAKER_03 42:21

That trendy shit. Yeah. But you work with a lot of physicians.

SPEAKER_01 42:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:26

Are you in a media company or PR firm or like how do you think that's it?

SPEAKER_01 42:29

Yeah, so no, I um I was running a media company um of my own, and then I actually just merged it with uh this longevity company. Uh they just uh let them sort of just absorb it, and now we have a marketing and content team in there that I I'm the executive of. I run the whole team, and basically it's like, you know, they'll do the traditional marketing stuff, but also we have this sort of like studio content engine embedded in the company, so it's not you know, like you have to go out and do a commercial shoot every time you want to do a social media ad or something like that. So um, and we offer that then to our larger partners, right? So, like other medical enterprises that are like, oh, we don't want to do creative agencies, we don't want to do um, you know, external creative and have to deal with like you have this many hours of creative time to do this. It's like great, well, with this model, you just uh basically act like inside combo of things, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:20

Yeah, so you wouldn't think to put those two together, yeah. Uh with like longevity and like kind of like marketing. Well when I say that way, yes, but like no, like you know, you you you get your social media team, your like whatever marketing team, and then like the business side but having it together that actually makes a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_01 43:43

Yeah, yeah. So it was a happy accident, I suppose you could say, you know, something that uh I didn't I didn't know would work so well together because I wasn't trying to set out and put it together, but now we've got all these case studies of wow, this really works. So yeah, yeah, you know, let's keep doing it. So it's been good. But we'll give you the trendy treatment. That won't give you that one's on me.

Where To Follow Arizona Jones Official

SPEAKER_03 44:06

All right. So, Alex, where can people find out a little more about you and what you do and what your company offers?

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Yeah, I think I'll uh I'll keep it personal for this one. It's just uh Arizona Jones Official. I do that's where I do the Legos Animal Rescues and the Pursuit of Living Longer for myself. Um, but uh yeah, that's on all platforms, Arizona Jones Official. So you come check me out and I'll I'll talk about work there when we're ready to sort of fully come out, uh come out into the streets. So awesome. It's been a pleasure chatting with you, gentlemen. Awesome. Thanks for joining us. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_02 44:35

Thank you.